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Hi Lemmy, My HOA sent out a email saying dogs are no longer allowed on any grass in common areas or front yards including grass between sidewalk and curb which is.... everywhere except our own tiny backyards. The reasoning is some dog urine effected dead spots. Honestly I didn't even notice them, it's 95° here and all the grass looks sad.

It's a walking town and we are not a gated community, non-residents walk their dogs here all the time, so this rule can only punish those who live here and has no ability to effect others.

Anyway, this seems like a 'we have tried nothing and we are all out of ideas!' moment so I wanted to see if anyone here had any suggestions I can pass on to maintain a "good" curb appeal ground cover-wise while allowing dogs to do normal dog stuff.

I can converse with the HOA board in good faith, but this rule is basically banning dogs from the neighborhood - which I super did not sign up for.

Pertainent info: PA, USA - Town Home style homes - small central common grass - owned for 8y.

Edit: it seems like people may have glossed over the question part and skipped straight to HOA bashing (which is warranted at times!) so I will rephrase:

What ground covering or neighborhood solutions to similar (perceived) issues have other communities employed?

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Check to make sure that the HOA actually has the power to do this. As a land owner you are bound to follow the covenants that run with the land, but you are only actually bound to follow those covenants. You don't have to do random stuff just because the HOA board or even a majority of the HOA voters say so, you only actually have to do what's in the covenants.

Unless the covenants say that you agree to follow a bunch of dog-related rules to be defined later, you almost certainly are allowed to park your dog in your own front yard or in that of any consenting neighbor.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The HOA can pass an amendment or addendum to the covenants at any point, which then instantly enacts the rule and gives them the power to fine you and put a lien on your property if you don’t pay…with the caveat that I’m speaking about in the USA. Do other countries have HOA’s? You could go to a meeting or take them to court of course.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Most other countries do not have HOAs. In Finland where I live, municipalities can enact ordinances to limit what you can do on your property, but they are often very limited if they exist at all. The most restrictive ones that I know limit the type of house that can be built (eg. no flat roofs, although this can be a zoning issue as well), the color of the houses and other similar limitations.

I'll take my socialdemocrat "hell hole" of a country over the "free" USA with HOAs any time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who would build a flat roof in finland. That has to a hazard with all that snow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, but they were in style for a while. Until it dawned on people how utterly stupid that was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure all nordic countries have HOAs though, it's just that here they basically only manage common infrastructure in an area and tell you to fuck off if you try to paint your house polka dot lime-green and purple.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Finland doesn't exist anyway

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The HOA generally can only amend the covenants if a large majority of members vote to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah but lots of times the board is like 4 people