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I am looking at getting one as my next phone when my Pixel 7 reaches EOL. Hopefully the Fairphones are still around by then and hopefully they get more support from custom ROMs. I know CalyxOS supports the Fairphone 4

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks to the fact that the 4 (and the 5) do not have a headphone jack, no, I have decided against buying it. That's a damn shame

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

For a phone whose entire selling point is being the cool, down-to-earth, for the people, type phone. It's kind of odd to me they don't include something like this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

More importantly, BT headphones are inherently not sustainable compared to wired ones

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to think that too. Then i got some wireless ones. I spent way more money getting replacement wired headphones and adapters than replacing my wireless ones. Only thing is, you gotta charge em.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the opposite for me because I keep losing them if I don't put them immediately back in their charging case. But I don't like bringing it wherever I go, so that's the only draw back imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I do always put them right back, since i know me and id be the type to lose them otherwise too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why do you think so? My wireless Samsung Buds are about 2 years old and they are working great, as if new. Meanwhile when I had various wired headphones before that, 2 years was about their top life, mostly because of the cable getting damaged, which you can't replace anyway. So the argument of battery not being replaceable is totally irrelevant for me, and I think for most other people as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The main complaint with buds is that they are comparatively easy to lose, on top of the small size and lots of glue making repairs difficult and heat hard to dissipate.

The ifixit teardown of the FP buds was also scathing.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Fairphone+True+Wireless+Earbuds+Teardown/146449

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Like the other guy said, you can get headphones with detachable cables like IEMs. They don't even have to be expensive mind you. I have a 22€ pair with a replaceable cable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wired is still an option though thorough an adapter

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's probably a demand/cost offset. The demand for it probably doesn't outweigh the increased cost of adding that component. Simply not worth it for them in the long run.

At the end of the day they are still a business and there to make money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I get it, at the same time. It sucks. I just wish I could buy a swappable component or something. I know that'd be more expensive than just putting a headphone jack. It just sucks the options are limited.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their selling point is repairability and well sourced materials - hence the price.

I've had a FP4 since launch, and the USB-C to 3.5 adapter has been attached to my headphones ever since. I've never been in a situation where choosing whether to charge or listen has caused a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This, my phone is the same, no audio jack but a $1 dongle and I can use any 3.5mm headphone jack without problems

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also this price. More expensive than a brand new iPhone, I wish I could buy one but it’s way too expensive.

Some parts of the Fairphone 3 are available anymore. A 3 years old phone that you can’t repair yourself anymore.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

The price is due to repairability and better sourcing of materials. Much like cheap chocolate, iPhones, etc, are artificially cheap due to terrible labour practices in the supply chain.

If all someone cares about it technical performance vs price, they will never choose a fairphone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does the FP4 or FP5 can use a $1 dongle usb-c to audio jack?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Love the passive-aggressive tone of this one, lol.

USB-C is for charging and transferring data. Dongles suck, they break and ultimately they're just an uncomfortable workaround.

I will never understand why people are so willing to defend companies that have decided to take away a pretty big feature from their phones with the only clear intention of selling garbage BT headphones

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

USB-C is 24 pins, taking a ground somewhere and 3 pins for left/right/mic is the best thing for phone. I have super solid braided adapter to plug my 3.5mm audio jack. No need to use Bluetooth even if my phone supports LDAC, AptX HD or AAC.