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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I agree that in a lot of the states people can be pretty nasty towards LGBTQ+ people, but saying it is becoming a third world country is a bit extreme no?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have you been to Alabama? You could shoot those "adopt an African" commercials there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can’t speak about Alabama specifically, but all the states I’ve been to seem to be pretty nice places to live. Maybe I’ve only been to “the good ones” if what you said is true

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

And I'm sure you traveled to the nicer places of the cities you were in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you specifically seek out the bad places?

Crazy thought, but tourist destinations are usually pretty nice for a reason. You're never going to see the slums or the backwaters if you're just doing the tourist thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I travel somewhere I don’t intentionally look for places that are shitholes, but I didn’t seek out good spots either. I try to get a feel of what living in the state is like, not just in it’s flagship city. Yes I haven’t done that for every single state I’ve been to, but I have for a lot of them.

Regardless, there’s no need to be rude about it man

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

One of the common data points used by organizations to rate a country as "third world" or not is the state of its infrastructure. In that department, the US is certainly closer to third world countries than we are to our European brethren. It's been ignored and underfunded for so long that there are many places where it's quite literally falling apart, and that's not even getting into the state of public transit (or lack thereof) or how the single family suburb sprawl is slowly bleeding cities dry of their capital.

There are other horrible things like parts of the US that have never had plumbing (Appalachia comes to mind) or things like the Flint, Michigan crisis (do they have drinkable water? I think as of last year they still didn't. They might be able to take showers again, though, without causing permanent health issues for their kids). We have higher rates of women who die during childbirth than some third world countries. The quality of healthcare here is ranked the worst out of the first world nations while also being the most expensive. The wealthy go to Canada for prescriptions and surgery, or Mexico for dental work - Mexico apparently has better dentists than the US from what I've heard. We are #1 in number of incarcerated citizens per capita. The wealth disparity in the US today is supposedly worse than it was in France in the years just before the French Revolution, where the price of a loaf of bread was more than a day's pay for the average worker. Upward class mobility (being born into a poor family and being able to become wealthy) is the lowest it's been, I think, since the country was founded. A year or two before COVID happened, I was looking into starting a side business and found studies saying that a new business was more likely to fail today than in the Great Depression. If I remember the stats right, it was something like 40% of businesses fail in their first year, another 20% in their second year, and by year 4, 80% of new businesses have gone under.

I've heard the US described as "a third world country in a Prada belt," and I think it's an apt description. Policy-wise, we're closer to third world countries than we'd like to admit. We've just been living off the postwar economic boom from WW2 that centered the US as the world's largest economy and wealthiest nation to ever exist. The sheer amount of money circulating in our economy has kept the nation chugging along through whatever stupid things the corporations and the politicians have done over the years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's a meaningless term that is mostly used as a libel and only muddies discussions.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hyperbole brought to you by keyboard doomers who've never left their state much less their country. Talk to me when huge regions lack electricity or indoor plumbing.

Anybody interested in seeing that can hop over the border to Tijuana and check out villages on hillsides essentially made from trash where all the buildings are particle board and cinder block. There's shitty parts of the rural south, but to claim they're the same demonstrates a profound lack of perspective. I dunno, maybe it's gotten better since the late 90s when I was there, but there are degrees to these things.

We can discuss America's fascism problem without being ridiculous muppets and or Kremlin/CCP propaganda vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Talk to me when huge regions lack electricity or indoor plumbing

cough Texasgrid cough