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Looks like KBin has an edge over Lemmy now in terms of monthly active users.

It's obviously a pretty silly thing, and is not in any way indicative of which project is "better" or more "long-term viable" or anything — instances of both federate with one another, and with the rest of fedi, so it's all one happy family.

That said, it's notable. KBin is a relative newcomer to the "Reddit-like fedi instance" game, and also does not have the tankie baggage.

Anyway, the more, the merrier!

KBin: https://the-federation.info/platform/184

Lemmy: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

Discussion on fedi: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/110527049024028986

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't speak for everyone, but I personally do not want to work with PHP ever again. I'm sure it's gotten better, but when I last used it (>15 years ago), the standard library was super inconsistent and performance was pretty terrible. It left a bad taste in my mouth, and I now prefer client-side rendering.

But aside from my personal dislike for PHP, here is why I prefer client-side rendering:

  • easier to have a solid caching strategy - means faster initial page load on mobile/slow connections
  • performance issues are usually limited to database access
  • you get the API for free for third party apps
  • can separate frontend concerns from backend concerns, so it makes development a little easier to split into teams with different skill sets

That said, for a federated system, it doesn't really matter that much since people can just increase the number of instances to help share the load. I just personally am not interested in helping with kbin, but I would be totally on board with helping with Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it shows you haven't used php in a while. Most of the gripes people have with it have been fixed over the years, and every framework encourages you to build an API-first app these days.