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With Donald Trump facing felony charges over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, the former president is flooding the airwaves and his social media platform with distortions, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories about his defeat.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

He was screaming about fraud in the 2016 election HE WON. O_O

And that's not the end of it, his surrogates claimed fraud in various districts in 2020 that he ALSO won.

It's all about making people doubt elections.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Which confuses me to this day, because doesn't it make Republicans less likely to vote since they think their vote doesn't matter?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Take Sarah Palin as an example. The half term Governor makes more money now than she ever made as a public employee. They know they can't win the poker game, so they'll make money by kicking over the table.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Now that I can see if it's all just a craven cash grab.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Look up a novel called 'Space,' by James Michener. There's a character who goes from getting rich conning people with UFO conspiracies to being a Christian nationalist without breaking a sweat.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm sure that's based on someone real.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can't imagine who that could be...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Which makes the elections more lopsided and "proof of fraud!"

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but they're showing that argument doesn't work in terms of actually changing election results, so they're just shooting themselves in the foot at this point as far as I can tell.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ok, but how do they keep those legislatures in place? Even with gerrymandering, if Republicans aren't voting, that doesn't help them.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Gerrymandering doesn't really apply at the state and local level. Most states are majority Republican at the state legislative level.

https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_composition_of_state_legislatures

And, in the end, if they get what they want and are able to over-ride election results they don't like, it won't change.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

But that's my point- they're only majority Republican because enough Republicans are convinced to still vote for them. If they convince enough of them that voting doesn't work, even if they made the change that legislatures get to choose the president, they are practically guaranteeing the legislature will fall to the Democrats.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In a lot of these rural districts, there aren't enough Democrats to matter.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are if Republicans don't vote. There are Democrats in those rural districts too. I know because Indiana, where I live, is full of rural districts. Democrats are gaining ground in them too in terms of percentages. They aren't winning, yet, but if Republicans stop voting?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Logic plays no role with them.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Putin's main goal is to sow chaos. Level unlocked.

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