Anime & Manga

One of the biggest issues is how horny the art can be. Western media is guilty of this too if you look at comics made in the late 80s till today, but western comics have started to tone it down in the mainstream(and with how hard the market crashed even mainstream comics were fringe in the 00s) .

Still the horny super saiyan male gaze is the worst and ruins a show. Dragon maid is exhibit A. Even if you age up the 16 year old to 25 and if the camera treated the child character like a child, it would still be a hard sell to someone who isnt already indoctrinated into how anime is. The story itself is fun and wholesome and the animation is great, but the character designs and framing of the women is still just too much. Tits jiggling wildly, distracting angles, situations that should be played straight played SUPER erotically for no reason. Its bad.

Whenever fanservice is criticized there are tons of members of the community who come out of the woodwork to defend it and act like the wanting my media to not be embarrassing is the result of being a prude, or not being sex positive or something when its just like, no this is just objectifying and distracting at best, and at worse it is detrimental to the story.

Of course then you have shows like dragon maid or how heavy are the dumbbells you lift which are ecchi series. Fans of ecchi will come out and say "why are you watching ecchi if you dont want to watch titties bounce. Do you get mad when people have sex in porn?" which is fair, but porn also doesnt represent a significant portion of each tv season and big budgets and quality animation isnt diverted away from other non pornographic projects.