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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you buy this pixel from Verizon, and use it as trade in for, say, samsung phone via their website, how are you supposed to get Sim service switched? You don't have Verizons phone (because you sent it to them), and your new phone doesn't have service (because they sell you a blank unlocked phone), nor is it connected to Verizons towers. You're going to be....expected to go to verizon? Use someone else's phone?

Like using someone else's car at the dmv for driving tests, it's horribly reliant on external factors and is fuckin' duuuuumb

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mailed in my last phone and it was a situation where it's "X" price /if/ they get the trade in within a certain number of days. So I had a few days where I had both phones and they warned me to do the switch over before I sent back the other phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not my experience but I may have done it wrong lol. Samsung's fold4 shipments were so delayed I ended up 2 weeks without a phone after boxing up my Verizon branded Fold2 as trade in. But nah your explanation makes sense

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

You take the phone you get to Verizon before you send your trade out. You say, give me a SIM for a phone that doesn't support it or switch my number to this phone via an eSIM.

Most companies send you the new phone first and you have time to send the trade-in after the fact for a set amount of days. If you do this from Verizon to Verizon as another example the new phone should activate with an eSIM out of the box and move your number. If not, Google is working on a tool to fix that:https://www.droid-life.com/2023/08/22/first-look-at-androids-native-esim-transfer-tool/

This is not any offense to you as your questions are relevant and reasonable, but this post has proved my point that Lemmy users know jack shit about security and why this is a good change. If you want learn there is a good podcast that elaborates on the issue with current physical SIM standards: https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/118/