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Ukraine’s Forces and Firepower Are Misallocated, U.S. Officials Say
(www.nytimes.com)
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Is this Ukraine’s war, or America’s?
Unnecessarily reductionist/antagonistic. If you had read the article, you would've known that the Ukrainians themselves agree with the point. And despite what the title says, the U.S. isn't the only of Ukrainian's western partners that thinks a change of strategy in order. This war might be fought primarily by the Ukrainians, but it's also very clearly a collective responsibility of the western world order.
The truth will never be reductionist.
ie- capitalist imperialism.
Such a bog-standard whataboutism that I couldn't even be bothered to roll my eyes anymore. Thanks for showing your true colors.
Your welcome. My colors are red and black.
Those colours doesn't seem to go all the way through though. Scratch them for a moment and you will see the colours of the Russian flag appearing.
Defending those colors means defending against Russia as well
Yep. I’m against all capitalist imperialism, even China’s. It’s almost like those supporting NATO aren’t really socialists.
I've read those people have a thought called "critical support" where they're critical against NATO but it's the only logical lifeline for Ukraine and Europe to end the war some day and prevent similar situations.
Personally; I guess that's a theory, who knows 🤷
I’m gonna do my best to communicate my reasoning.
The “critical support” theory is based on the assumption that nations wouldn’t come to Ukraine’s aid if NATO didn’t exist. Some believe that America and by extension NATO, created the conditions that preceded the conflict. Capitalism tends to create problems that it then has to solve. There was no salient reason for NATO to continue its existence after the fall of the Soviet Union, other than to maintain US hegemony.
Both, and Europe's.
Break the peace of Europe and it's an issue for everyone.
I’m watching Putin’s speech at the BRICS summit. The economics of the world is about to change and the American government is about to shutdown. Ukraine is about to be the least of America’s worries.
Mr Ruble-Nosedive shouldn't give talks about economy.
He didn’t take your advice.
And that is why the Ruble is still plummeting.
Well, that says a lot about you, but nothing at all about actual things happening in reality.
Are you drunk?
Also, he's dating a supermodel, you wouldn't know her, she goes to school in Canada.
Are you psychic?
I give you credit for bravery, my friend, I wouldn't be anywhere near where you are without satellites broadcasting /s around me.
People take life too seriously. Someone posting today on here will probably bite it before tomorrow. We should enjoy each other while we have the chance.
The data suggests otherwise...
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=RU-US-CN-IN-BR-ZA
The world bank? Now add the other 40 countries that want to join including Saudi Arabia. When the petrodollar goes, so will that GDP.
Ok - here's what it looks like if you were to group the GDP of each country into regions. If we group all of the regular trading partners and allies into "The West", they comprise 58% of global GDP. BRICS and the 137 other countries would be 41%.
https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/
I didn’t know that GDP is constant and can’t change. Surely nothing will change in the future. The PetroYuan is definitely not a possibility if Saudi Arabia joins BRICS. And that definitely won’t hurt America’s economy, reducing it’s GDP. America will always dominate the world. /s
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American soldiers are in Ukraine? So we’re okay with Proxy Wars now? Further reading.
I wish American soldiers were in ukraine to roll up this war and save lives
They would get dealt with just as Russia dealt with the western-trained 47th mechanized brigade full of NATO hardware using stupid western tactics. They got shredded to pieces together with their commander.
🤦
That could lead to WW3. Just hope that Russia destabilizes and Putin expires.
Fortunately or unfortunately, a destabilized Russia would not be safer for the world than a stable Russia.
Trying to be optimistic.
Not likely putin doesn't actually want to die
Only very briefly.
You have to leave the precedent that the peace of Europe will be preserved, that's how we made it the last 80 years without a world war.
Well, to be precise, it could lead to war with Russia. I doubt that would spill over to the whole world.
That prospect is terrifying enough given Russia’s nuclear weapons, so I’m definitely not arguing that “this is fine”.
I just think we need to be precise. Russia is not the Soviet Union - they don’t have 50 proxy states around the world.
Ukraine's