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Considering how crazy expensive accommodations have become the last couple of years, concentrated in the hands of greedy corporations, landlords and how little politicians seem to care about this problem, do you think we will ever experience a real estate market crash that would bring those exorbitant prices back to Earth?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not without some real force or change, middle class has invested to much of their retirement into the housing market to allow the prices to tank. Those who have are not going to risk it for the have nots.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine storing all of your nation's wealth in real estate that is actively decaying by the minute instead of into companies that make products and provide jobs. What a stupid fucking idea.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doesn’t matter. Houses are sold for prices as if they’re still mostly new. If you are good you can beat down the price by a cost of a new roof or a new heating system. Never both. No seller will ever acknowledge that renovation doesn’t make sense and the house should be teared down, actively lowering the land value. And they don’t have to. Someone else is around the corner to buy at any price, turning it into an overpriced rental unit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s because in most cases, you’re paying for the cost of the land, not the house itself. Just look at how much unimproved land costs. The house itself is a depreciating asset, the land appreciates so much that it overwhelms the cost of the house. Even condos are subject to this, simply because they take up space (which is worth money) and their price is tied to traditional houses because they are (imperfect) substitutes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Appraisals and tax assessments have a land value and a “structural improvement” values. Both of these are added together for the purchase price.

If there’s a building on the land that’s not derelict and has utilities- it’s almost always going to be worth more than the land value by itself.

There are def certain zip codes and/or a very large plot of land with a single house on it where the inverse is the case (land being worth more than improvement) but that is not the norm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My entire city burned down a year and a half ago. The burned lots were selling for over half the price as surviving houses, right after the fire. Like they were only 20-30% off. Most of the value is in the land.