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It is not anti anything specific. It simply points out that if you follow any ideology that consistently does not produce a solution to a problem it might be time to rethink your position. In everyday life we see many things getting worse than they were. We are then told that those bad outcomes are not due to bad policies, but to various other factors that have nothing to do with the issue. This is a complete generalization but is seems to me that conservatives more than other groups deal with outcomes and not policies that simply make them feel good about themselves.
That sounds like textbook in-group bias. Do you have any evidence that conservatives deal more with outcomes instead of feelings? Because if not, you’re literally doing what you claim is wrong.
No and that is why I characterized it as a generalization.
It’s not a generalization, it’s speculation. At least until you provide evidence.
I mean -- Gestures broadly at everything conservatives support
I don't particularly like to use boring tropes. But in some cases they fit too well to avoid.
I mean, conservatives have a pretty solid track record of fighting against the science in favor of their opinions:
You’re right — I see a disturbing pattern here. Across a great diversity of topics, Republicans support policies that directly contradict the research.
Fine.
Both have costs and benefits, which I've never seen a conservative deny. Republicans have different value weightings than whoever you're comparing it to. They are scientifically proven to have certain benefits. They are also scientifically proven to have certain costs. Republicans weigh those costs more heavily and the benefits more lightly than others.
Your comment is about science. Legal scrutiny is not science.
Are government massacres concurrent with civilian weapons bans considered in these homicide numbers, or is it only citizen-on-citizen crime that's counted here?
I’m always willing to listen to counter arguments, if they are supported by peer reviewed studies. Got any recorded evidence for your claims?