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Wait...so these are your examples of people who "did something"
Do you realize that the edge every single one of these companies had over the others is the willingness to do whatever it takes to extract as much value from labor for the least amount of money, right?
You are just making the case for the complete destruction of capitalism. Only soulless psychopaths are rewarded here. Winning is not beating these people at the same psychotic game that they're playing.
This is the reasoning that leads to "if you think medicines are too expensive, stop buying them" with much the same problem of it not being quite that simple for the majority of humanity, whose "choices" are not as unconstrained as the ones you're familiar with.
I know you deleted your earlier nonsense, but I saw some of it first, so I know how out of touch you are. You were wrong about how much wealth people have, but even after having that corrected, here you are with "It's just how the world works", another incorrect assertion that might describe your experience of the world, but is unrepresentative for humanity as a whole.
Most people don't have the luxuries you so clearly take for granted. Turning down exploitative employment is only an option for those with money in reserve. Most people do not have that. Going somewhere else means separation from family and friends—easy enough for the thoroughly unlikable, but community is important to most members of a social species. And, anyway, that's assuming there aren't legal restrictions like immigration controls. As I said before, most lives are more constrained than yours, and that isn't because those people are any less deserving. That is how the world works.
I'm going to suggest you read the article "Why Fascism is the Wave of the Future" by Edward Luttwak. Don't worry, it's just a warning, and it starts:—
so it's not commie propaganda. But it might relieve you of some of your misconceptions, since you clearly aren't listening to us here. Of course, you could just carry on regardless, but then it'll be just far too clear that you're not acting in good faith.
Bad faith it is, then. Got it.
You might want to recheck that constitution.
Oh, no, what am I saying? You don't want to do that, because that would once more point out that you're clueless in your assertions. Now I don't want to read any more of them. And I'm free to turn you down, right?
Oh you don’t like being exploited? Well, you’re free to starve and die instead! Freedom!
Huh, really? Someone should let Nestle know.
Tell that to the 13th amendment and the prison-industrial complex. Maybe also phone up the people mining the minerals for your Tesla and your phone
The rich and the poor are equally free to sleep under a bridge at night.
Everybody is equally free to turn down a job when they need money for food, housing, medical care and other necessities of basic life.
I can't force someone to take a job, but I can starve them until they do. And I can make it illegal for them to acquire food in any way that isn't engaging with my system of capitalism.
proof
Just because you say you enjoy the taste of shoe polish doesn't mean you're not a pathetic bootlicker.
You sound extraordinarily misogynistic and insecure when you say that. Got some Jordan Peterson books in your mancave, bucko?
The more you try to claim you're totally not enraged and everything is le funny to you, the more enraged you sound.
Sure you're not, which is why you have to keep saying you're le laughing right now.
Clearly calling you a bootlicker hit close to the mark because all you've done since then is act insecure and misogynistic.
You're crying about that now? I know self awareness isn't your strong suit, but come on.
The more you keep bringing up your insistence that you're not raging about being called (apparently, correctly) a bootlicker, the worse you're making it sound for you.
Crying about personal attacks after accusing me of being effeminate (because femininity bad, amirite bucko?
) is really shooting yourself in the foot. You've already come across as misogynistic, insecure, and a stan for corporate masters that don't care if you live or die. You're just digging deeper.
Continue.
Ulysses you really need to engage with more chuds. Your posting power is wasted on comrades, this is wonderful
I haven't argued much at all with other Hexbears pretty much since federating happened.
Your wish is granted.
I mean this takedown was just wonderful
Might just go ahead and delete your entire account at this point
No one cares if you "buy into" anything. It exists whether you believe it or not.
The entire point of keeping unemployment at certain levels is so capitalists can dictate wages and responsibilities. It's not a secret. Bourgeois media openly panics whenever unemployment levels get too low.
Right sure you do. I definitely believe you.
You can believe whatever you want but that doesn't change how the real world works outside your head.
Sure, if that's even true, then good for you.
Again, you can believe whatever you want but that doesn't change how the real world works outside your head.
Cool good for you (if that's even true)
Anyway, in the very real world that we live in, unemployment is kept at certain levels so capitalists can dictate wages and responsibilities. It's not a secret. Bourgeois media openly panics whenever unemployment levels get too low.
Yes, they are panicking because people have bargaining power to get higher wages. Are you still not connecting the dots there?
I have a skill and I am not struggling like some of my other comrades are. That does not make me blind to the purpose of unemployment or to the fact that if everyone in the world had my skill set then that would mean there are a lot of important jobs that aren't getting done, a fact that, curiously, has completely escaped you.
No, they are concerned about having to pay people more, because that cuts directly into their own profits. They are not more concerned about inflation then they are about their own loss of profit from having to pay workers more, unless they require so few laborers to run their business that inflation does actually cut into their profits more.
Feds are increasing interest rates to increase unemployment. They directly stated that. You can Google it if you don't believe me.
Quite a bit has escaped you and it is endlessly entertaining to me.
Labor is the largest expense of a business wtf do you mean a wage increase "doesn't cut into profits" lmao
Businesses had an excuse to raise prices so they did, end of story. That's not complicated in the slightest.
The Fed is doing what they said they're trying to do, increase unemployment rates.
Have a good one.
Wow you're just an actual idiot.
I try to tell myself that most of the people bought into capitalism can be rehabilitated, maybe some just need to spend a few years breaking rocks to get it through their heads that other people fucking exist on this planet.
Reading your comments has made me re-evaluate that
I already know you're an insufferable lib you don't need to dig the hole any deeper
glad we agree, now please face the wall:
Just know that the only reason people in your personal life feign looking you is because of your money, without that you'd be friendless
I don't buy into that lame beta theory of gravity. You go down. If you don't feel like going down, go up. It's that simple. That is the beauty of jumping. I can jump as high as I want