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Discuss anarchist praxis and philosophy. Don't take yourselves too seriously.

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Breaking down walls, tearing down barriers and abolishing borders.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I know is sociology and group psychology. I know what people can't do, and what people are compelled to do in groups. Human psychology and ego simply does not allow for anarchy, regardless of how you feel politically. Reality does not kneel to your desire - and your egotistical belief that it can is exactly the reason why it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh, the "human nature" argument. Never heard that one before /s

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why do you stubbornly rebel against it, like a child who won't eat their vegetables?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it's not correct, for a lot of reasons. Even the idea of "human nature" is pretty questionable, at least unless your conception of it is extremely broad and conditional ^.^

People are capable of cooperation and non-hierarchical/coercive organising and natural disasters and shit demonstrate this. This is just one example of proto-anarchistic organising among many.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is correct - not that you care about "correct". To you, words only mean what emotional reactions they get.

My conception of “human nature” comes directly from psychology, sociology, and anthropology textbooks, and the experience I have with humanity which has been exclusively abusive.

People are only capable of cooperation in the service of protecting their social groups from external threats, real or imagined. While that does include protection against natural disasters, it's primarily used against innocent people believed to be threats solely because they don't already belong to the social group. If they believe they can get away with it, any group will butcher any random person like a hog simply to show dominance.

Look up social dominance theory and recognize that all social groups try to dominate all other group and people. Human beings literally define their identities by who they or their social groups dominate. That's a fact.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel sorry for you that your experiences of fellow humans have been so unrelentingly negative. To clarify your position, are you saying groups of humans are incapable of altruism?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I'm saying that:

  1. Human groups are capable of altruism toward perceived members of their group - "perceived" includes people like members of their group.

  2. Human groups are ruthless to those outside their group, particularly towards lone people and weaker groups.

  3. Solitary, unpopular people like myself are ravaged by everyone precisely because we have no protection and offer no threat to organized groups.

I've never had a the opportunity to join a group because I was not born into one in the first place, and people will only tolerate those already in a social group. Everyone objectifies me and insists that I am their property.