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No, I don't. I can't see who the deal is between - because it's not between the ruling class and the ruled (the social contract doesn't exist). In the big scheme of things the money given to Tuften Street "think tanks", lobby groups, straightforward corruption and ownership of the media is peanuts in comparison to maintaining the current property relations in UK (and most of the world). We've seen what happens when the ruling class feels threatened and can no longer maintain the façade of "democracy". PR doesn't alter things much abroad: it gives a different style of entertainment to keep people distracted.
I'm in favour of distributive ownership and distributed power. No one group should be in control. We know that - to save the planet - we need to do things like outlaw oil companies (and the rapid end of use of fossil fuels) and mega-cattle farming. No "parliament" (first past the post, PR or whatever) is going to do that anywhere in the world. It's going to come down to a mix of terrible catastrophes which trigger direct action.
This really is a million miles from being realistic about the way the world is ran these days. The money given in donation and corrupt boys network schemes is small. It is small compared to the return on the investment. These people have made billions from the scams of our government. Sunak himself was linked to the billions earned betting against the pound. That is money directly from our pocket. We will now have to spend billions buying those gilts back on maturity. The money being made on corruption in the UK is staggering. And it is being done for a song. The national audit offence asked Sunak to look into £55b in the fraud they found to be possible from treasury finances. He refused to look in that direction. This is something that is very prevalent throughout the Tory party.
I am not 100% sure that this is not just a trolling session anymore, so I will end my comments here.
No, just a discussion.
I'm not sure you read what I've written anyhow. I tell you things like:
And you then say:
Which is more or less what I said. You did the same about terrorism.
I'm always interested in finding out how people invested in a broken system think that it can be improved or reformed (and willing to learn and change my mind which is the point of discussion). No worries, though.