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As promised, we are talking repairability this week. I thought it's not really possible to talk repairability without talking about it in relations to build quality.

It seems to me that over the years, the general trend is that phones have become more and more difficult to repair in general. To me, I don't believe that this is some kind of nefarious plot designed to make people buy new phones every two years, here are some of the reasons why I think it is:

The first is the perceived build quality. It used to be that plastic is the most common type of material for the back of phones, and I would say plastic is the ideal default material for the back of phones: cheap, and versatile in hardness, color, and texture. However, the use of plastic in cheaper phones has resulted in a negative perception. Metal backs are durable but doesn't allow for NFC signals through, and I can't believe they settled on glass as the ideal material for the back instead, since it is actually extremely impractical to use.

The second is waterproofing. Waterproofing requirement means that glue is mandatory even with the presence of a gasket, which naturally discourages the

The third would the improvement in actual build quality. Modularity is very much still a trade-off, as if we can assume the phone cannot be easily opened, then more fragile components can be used in the phone that doesn't have the requirement to be able to be repeatedly plugged and unplugged. One of the most important changes is the change from Micro-USB to USB-C, as the increased durability means that people won't consider it to be a part that requires replacement as much.

I just think that what's broken can eventually be fixed, but it'll never feel the same afterwards.

Sorry if this is a bit messier and late this week, very interested in everybody's thoughts on this topic. The Fairphones look interesting, but it's not easy to get in the States.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Waterproofing requirement means that glue is mandatory even with the presence of a gasket

Huh?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Samsung Galaxy S5 had everything that seems impossible today already 9 years ago:

expandable storage, USB3.0, headphone jack, swapable battery, ... all while being IP67 (30 mins in 1m depth) waterproof.

Somehow we are not able to do so anymore... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, because IP68 is the better target. Surely you remember all the water damage issues with the S5?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So, rubber gaskets still need to be fastened somehow, and using glue is the easiest and fastest way as opposed to using screws, tradeoff of course is repairability.