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The Problem with LMG (www.youtube.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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My personal thoughts

At first it came off a bit whiney, but I watched the entire thing and I'm glad I did. It shows a pattern of carelessness and in some cases complete douchebaggery of LMG.

What they did to Billet Labs is absolutely un-fucking excusable. LMG and Linus, in particular, needs to be mercilessly shamed for that until Billet Labs gets a clear and unequivocal apology and paid restitution for damages. Fucking shameful. What a bunch of pricks.

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This video is not monetized. This video covers our serious concerns regarding the data accuracy of Linus Media Group, including Linus Tech Tips, ShortCircuit, and TechQuickie, particularly as it relates to rushing content out the door to favor -- by staff's own admission -- quantity over quality. As the company continues to expand into its LTT Labs direction, the importance of accurate data increases; however, even as 'only' entertainment, there are still certain responsibilities to the consumer and the manufacturers to report fairly (and to have defined corrections processes in place). We tried to approach this as objectively as possible and hope that viewers are able to listen to the evidence we present, particularly as it relates to significant and frequent data errors that now present in nearly every technical review video.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do they know it's a bad product if they didn't bother to test it under the conditions it was designed for? It was a prototype, not a final product. In the original video, Linus is surprised (and maybe a bit upset) that the other guy didn't grab the right card or even notice that he didn't get the right card.

And to the point of the comment you replied to: it doesn't matter what the cost of the cooler was. If it was the best of the best then it was worth showing that. LTT does not seem to have a consistent viewpoint of "practicality". Even if we ignore that, saying "this product isn't worth the cost" is very different than the "useless" comment they ended up with.

The whole situation is what I like to refer to as "fractally wrong". No matter the perspective, how close or far away, it's always wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again if you are charging 800+ dollars and again to Linus' point of view he wasn't aware of the 4090 FE edition of this cooler, doesn't make sense for buyers. Most of the video they are complimenting the machining of the piece.

The best case scenario for this thing is the temps are slightly better but the experience of building with it is a
nightmare and the advantages over literally any other solution are negligible it's a cool concept but unfortunately I think that there are very few buyers for it with that said you know if it tickles your fancy but you're thinking yeah cool idea but maybe if it was a little more like this I wouldn't be surprised if these guys could basically make just about anything for you they've definitely got the manufacturing chops

I don't think they ever say useless in the original video. Could you provide me a link of them doing so but gave it a quick scan via transcript and not seeing it. To me they just say its a bad product (with Linus' limited knowledge of said product).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he wasn't aware of the 4090 FE edition of this cooler

Yes he was, he commented on it in the original video, which the GN video included.

I don't think they ever say useless in the original video.

My bad, I should not have quoted a word that they didn't use directly. But still, his final conclusion, as included in the GN video, is that nobody should buy it, and not just because of cost.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes he was, he commented on it in the original video, which the GN video included.

maybe I'm blind deaf and stupid but the link for that say nothing about Linus knowing about the 4090 FE edition of the cooler. Just that they used a 4090 in the original video and that was bad, which I again agree with and said he probably should have used a 3090TI.

My bad, I should not have quoted a word that they didn't use directly. But still, his final conclusion, as included in the GN video, is that nobody should buy it, and not just because of cost.

Because its a 800+ dollar of copper for a gpu and cpu cooling. Even if it was 20 degrees lower, you are spending half of what you spent on a fucking GPU on copper (that is magnificently manufactured/milled). This is so niche its just a bad product since the tolerances are so tight as shown in the video it only works on one type of gpu and/or cpu. Like its clear Billet labs is doing fantastic work on the machining but no reasonable consumer should ever buy this. This is so unreasonable and that is the point Linus is making. Its a cool project that Billet labs is making but there is almost no practical purpose for it.

Edit: Like their business model is so niche. If anything this feels like a way to spin the company in the direction of making custom milled part for commercial entities that need custom solutions. The consumer market isn't a good market for them.