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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Holy fucking shit they're blocking piracy? What a bunch of losers. Get off the anti-corporate platform built on copyleft principles if you have a problem with piracy.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The losers are commenting on this site as well.

https://hexbear.net/post/317675

Transphobia? That's cool with them. Treating food workers like shit? Also fine. But watch a copy of a movie? "Horrible theft". There are people dying over preventable causes due to patents that aren't even held by the creators. I hate liberals

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I created an account today on lemm.ee because I thought defeterating from hexbear sucked, then there were others and today was the last straw, even though I don't pirate. I didn't leave reddit for more restrictive platform. Lemmy.world sucks balls.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh? It's understandable. They shouldn't be forced to deal with any legal issues that come with it.

You can just use another instance that fits your needs, isn't that the whole point of this decentralized model?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are no legal issues. You can fucking talk about piracy completely legally. This is a moral position being taken under the excuse of legality by liberals who run their server with a strict political leaning, as demonstrated by their mass banning of socialists and defederation from every left wing space.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hasn't reddit already gotten into legal trouble multiple times regarding that sub? Even very recently with film piracy.

And let's not pretend these communities only 'discuss' piracy, as much as they try to keep it within that limit. These corporations wouldn't care even if they did.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea that corporations will come after federated instances that aren't even creating the posts instead of the source is nonsensical. Until the source is attacked there is literally no reason anyone should be concerned, and if the source is taken down then it won't be on other instances anymore anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The idea that corporations will come after federated instances that aren't even creating the posts instead of the source is nonsensical

Is it? Content from federated instances are cached on the instance itself too, no?

I wouldn't take the risk federating with legally questionable instances, and no one should have to. I'd just use an alt account for that on another instance that is federated, and I do.

if the source is taken down then it won't be on other instances anymore anyway.

That doesn't seem to be the case. vlemmy.net has gone down permanently it seems, and I can still access the content on there that were made while it was up from other instances.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, because it's illegal. If you're going to be the biggest host you're a bigger target which means you need to be more careful. What's good about the fediverse is that you have distributed instances so smaller ones can support things like piracy, and if a small one gets taken down there will be others in its place. The same game of whack a mole is what has allowed torrent tracker sites to exist. If there was one centralized torrent tracker site it would get shut down.

What the post says is exactly right. You'd be an idiot to have one account for your normal usage and piracy usage. In your normal usage you'll inevitably leak personally identifiable information. Having multiple accounts and multiple instances is the exactly right thing to do to keep piracy alive.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is nothing illegal about talking about piracy. Get a grip. This is entirely about taking a moral position, because the server is run by liberals with a clear and obvious political position, as demonstrated by their mass banning of socialists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not just talking about piracy, they're linking to it. There's piracy subs on Reddit too and they're allowed because they are very careful to only talk about it and not link to it, and they're severely gimped because of that. What's great about lemmy is that instances that are on with the risk can do so without having to follow anyone else's rules and users can access it by simply having another account.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linking to pirate sites is also not illegal. https://1337x.to/ woooooooOOooOOooooo scary! I just broke the lawwwww according to you, get a grip.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think the media companies have been abusing the DMCA to go after people who link to pirated material. also, I'm starting to suspect world is trying to get funding because they're trying to "clean" the site up in exactly the way banks/VCs require for loans. it's a conservative interpretation of the law, especially the recent rounds that purported to go after human trafficking but actually forced major websites to take down anything remotely objectionable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh they're trying to sell out. Gross.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wasn't the admin of .world one of the ones who went into the NDA'd cocksucking meetups with Meta?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm starting to suspect world is trying to get funding because they're trying to "clean" the site up in exactly the way banks/VCs require for loans.

If that's true they're idiots. It's not even fucking necessary. All the social media VCs deliberately take the most neutral stance possible for the LARGEST possible userbases. Did reddit? Did any other social media site do that? Fuck no they didn't. They viewed them as user sources and valuable towards growth. It's literally the opposite of what every VC funded group does.

The cleanup only happens before an IPO. During VC funding companies are always as free as they can possibly be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

yeah, that's the part that confuses me. whatever it is, it's another stupid decision in a series of stupid decisions, and hopefully it just kills the instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"Wow, Blockbuster sucks because I have to drive to a physical store. I know, let's open up another brick-and-mortar store that's exactly like Blockbuster minus the name recognition. That'll show 'em!"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Reddit never had any issues with r/Piracy. They don't host anything, they just refer to websites that host stuff. If anything they'd help companies to discover what websites they should take down.