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Should Climate Protesters Be Less Annoying? (newrepublic.com)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, it pushes the envelope. People making sacrifices makes the best kind of point to other people.

The Arab spring comes to mind.

Was that man also an idiot who didn't inspire anything?

At some point, the spark will catch.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends on the protest. You can't just do a random thing and expect people to get inspired. Gluing yourself to something makes you look foolish. Not inspiring. Blocking traffic is actually related to the problem, so it can start a spark.

Some of the best environmentist protestors are the ones who chain themselves to trees to stop old growth logging. These are excellent and passionate protests.

The glue and paintings nonsense works against this. It's stupid and distracting and discouraging.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and how is turning yourself ON FIRE related to a constructive solution to the problems in the Middle East?

I hear your point but I'm not buying it. Sounds like fear to me. I think people should do ALL KINDS of shit EVERYWHERE. Not fit themselves into some kind of rational frame of "what makes sense".

I'd guess it's not what "makes sense" that sparks revolutions, it's the real crazy stuff.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Setting yourself on fire is an ultimate and devastating personal sacrifice, not a bratty lashing out at random stuff. No comparison. However, once you set yourself on fire you can't help anybody anymore, ever, so it's still a bad idea.

Gluing yourself to things has proven to be a failed strategy. Everybody just makes fun of you. It's humiliating and does a disservice to actual activists.