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KNBR (AM 680) Antennas, Redwood City, CA, 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mediumwave (AM) broadcast radio uses lower frequencies than other modern broadcasting and so requires much larger antennas (generally getting larger and larger as the frequency gets lower on the dial). This often entails highly customized antenna designs engineered for the particular site and station frequencies. For most radio stations (FM, TV, etc), the towers are there simply to get the relatively small antennas up high, but for AM stations like KNBR, the towers generally ARE the antennas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The taller tower (550 feet) at right is the main KNBR antenna, built in 1949. It employs an unusual "pseudo-Franklin" design; it's actually an array of two antennas stacked atop one another. The 400 foot lower section is insulated from the ground. The upper 150 foot section is insulated from the lower section. The large (50 foot) diameter "capacitance hat" at the top (reminiscent of the Parachute Jump at Coney Island) electrically lengthens the top section, saving 250 feet of additional height.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This distinctive stacked dual antenna arrangement is used to lower the radiation angle of the antenna, concentrating transmitted power to the "ground wave" and reducing energy that would otherwise be sent upward into the sky.

The smaller (300 foot) freestanding mast in the background left is not in current use. It can be used as an emergency spare antenna for KNBR during maintenance of the taller main antenna.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@[email protected] Interesting enough, another result is that the audio frequency bandwidth is a bit restricted. When Susquehanna owned KNBR, they tried to broadcast HD on it but found they couldn't because of HD's bandwidth requirements. Most listeners wouldn't notice the restricted bandwidth, since the NRSC standard limits bandwidth to ± 10 kHz and almost no modern AM receivers can go that far up anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The antenna field is in the final approach and takeoff flightpath for SFO airport's runways 28L/R (and 10L/R), and so the site has special markings to warn pilots of a collision hazard. In addition to the usual tower lights and red/white paint, 3-dimensional "HAZ" warnings were installed around the field. These are easily visible in areal photos; see, e.g., https://earth.google.com/web/@37.5471204,-122.23429544,0.73120256a,577.14725587d,35y,0.01179999h,0t,0r/data=CgRCAggBQgIIAEoNCP___________wEQAA

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Note, important safety tip: you can get closer to this tower without clearly trespassing or jumping fences than most other 50KW broadcast antennas I've encountered. I measured a field strength of over 80V/m a bit outside the tower fence, which is an incredibly strong signal (though still within OSHA limits at the frequency involved).

Resist any temptation to jump the fence and climb the (energized) tower. You'd be electrocuted as soon as you touch it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] Interesting I'm going to do some field tests for interference for a wildlife monitoring radio system & I'm wondering what you used to measure this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

@mwhelm For AM, the instruments of choice are the Potomac FIM-41 or PI-4100 (the former being older, analog, and more fun to use, the latter being soulless, digital, and easier to use).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@[email protected] there may be a literal pair of smoking boots as the only remaining evidence.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@20002ist @greem I don't think you want to look in the trunk, officer...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] Proof that "You don't want to look in there" > "I do not consent to a search"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] I’m gleeful to see the absolute best film ever made finally referenced here. Laughing aloud, thanks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

@[email protected]

Ever since I saw this video by @[email protected], I realized that respect for towers could be life-saving.

https://youtu.be/GgDxXDV4_hc

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@HikerGeek @mattblaze
Wow. 😎 I was a radio DJ for a couple years but did *not* know this. Is it same for AM and FM?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@ColesStreetPothole @HikerGeek No; FM broadcast antennas are comparatively quite small. The tower structures for them are just to get them up high and should not themselves be energized with RF. But the RF fields near the antennas can reach dangerous levels. (You can't go to the roof of the World Trade Center, which hosts a bunch of FM and TV stations, without special precautions, for example).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Ah, okay. I was an FM jockey, but we never got to see the tower, it was miles away.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@HikerGeek @mattblaze Jeff Geerling can be pretty funny.

How are such towers climbed safely if a technician is needed?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] that should have been obvious I suppose. 🙂