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Evangelical Christian leader Russell Moore revealed this week that many evangelical pastors have become alarmed that their Trump-loving congregants have become so militant that they are even rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ.In an interview with NPR, Moore said that multiple pastors had told h...

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No one hates Jesus and his teachings as fiercely as a Christian. Christians would be the firsts in line to crucify Christ for his hippie, soft ideas again if he were to resurrect, this has been known for centuries.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I have a 20 year old t-shirt that says "If Jesus comes back we'll kill him again" on it in tiny white script. People always thought it was a statement of my intentions but it was always just a comment on society.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the South Park ep Hare Club for Men, when Bill Donahue, of the Catholic League (read: assholes with persecution complex), says to kill the Jews (Jesus was Jewish). Jesus wasn't hardline enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's simply not true. A truthful statement is that these people were never Christians. They flew the Christian flag because it lent them credibility and control. But it has been a long time since we've seen any Christian values from the loudmouths we see in the news claiming to be Christians. Actual Christians aren't the people you see on the news. I know a few and they're great people who do a lot for their communities and the people around them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A truthful statement is that these people were never Christians.

This is like the most very basic "No True Scotsman" that you can do.

These people are Christian, whether you like it or not. You don't get to decide that they aren't. All Abrahamic religions and their holy books are full of awful awful stuff. And no, not just the Old Testament.

Now you know how most Muslims feel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yea saying they're not Christian is just giving them an excuse.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're not at least attempting to follow the teachings of Christ, then you're not a Christian. Just calling yourself something doesn't make you that thing. I can say I'm a Rock Star until I'm blue in the face, that doesn't change the fact that I'm not even musical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What you're missing is that your rational response doesn't let people feel justified in hating people

You know, like atheists think religion makes you act. Turns out that's a humanity thing and not a religion thing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Not a true Scotman. Read a history book. Christians have been beheading, slaving and murdering people ever since Constantine converted in his death bed. It was never about being a good Christian in the eyes of God. Religion has always been about power.