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Nobody mentioned Egypt but they are responsible because they would not partake in Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign? That is a wild take.
I didn't say they were responsible. They are complicit, not responsible, because they refused to open the border and let people flee and now there are babies dying from hypothermia in Gaza.
So in this case, maybe they should be mentioned since, again, this is due in part to their giving Israel free reign to slaughter. These babies could have lived if Israel did not start their genocide, but there's also a smaller possibility they could have lived if Egypt hadn't refused to let any Palestinians out, even after the slaughter began.
Egypt could have let every pregnant woman and child out of Gaza and they refused.
Babies are dying from Hypothermia because Israel is murdering them.
Egypt is in no way responsible for any of Israel's crimes. In fact it is good they kept their border closed instead of rewarding Israel's terrorism and genocide with free Gazan land by expelling all the Palestinians from it.
Why do you keep claiming I am saying "responsible" when I am saying "complicit?"
What the fuck... It's good they didn't let pregnant women and children through their border and allowed Israel to slaughter them?
The goal of Israel's genocide is to expell Palestinians and steal their land. This terrorism is how Israel was founded and is how it has always expanded
Not abetting in the ethnic cleansing is the opposite of complicity.
There are many other flaws in your argument. You speak like men have no value and only women and children should be saved. We would be hearing stories about the 100% terrorist kill count if only men were left.
Finally, this is not the 1800s. We have boats. Israel was begging many countries to help their ethnic cleansing. Every country could have abetted in the ethnic cleansing if they wished for it. Egypt bordering Palestine is of little relevance in the modern age. It only makes for a convenient narrative.
You keep lying about what I say in order to argue with me and I don't understand why.
There are no lies. Gaza has hospitals to treat patients. Israel bombed them. This is not the responsibility of Egypt. Medical personnel and medical equipment is waiting right at the border of Gaza, all blocked by Israel.
What you are arguing for is because Israel commits acts of terrorism it becomes Egypts responsibility to save those victims. In the short term this would be good. But it does not solve the issue. In a few years Israel would invade Egypt and ethnically cleanse more.
Only by forcing Israel's hand have Americans finally woken up to what Israel truly is. Israel will kill pregnant women and children to steal their land.
These kids did not die from lack of hospital but lack of house. Stop blaming parties which did not partake in the genocide. The head responsible parties are Israel, America, UK and Germany.
This luckily did not happen. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/16/satellite-photos-show-egypt-building-gaza-buffer-zone-as-rafah-push-looms
There are absolutely lies. You have lied more than once. You claimed I said Egypt was responsible. I did not. You said it again after I told you I did not say Egypt was responsible. You then claimed I said they should have let women and children out. I did not.
I said Egypt was culpable, which is not the same as responsible, and I said that they should have let pregnant women (and children) out, not all women.
Stop lying about what I said and maybe we can discuss this. I doubt you will though. I doubt you'll even acknowledge that you lied about what I said. Please do surprise me.
Complicity is a higher form of responsibility. When someone drowns you can be indirectly responsible to save them. But when you are complicit in drowning someone you are directly responsible for their death.
Similarly you should be glad I used a lesser term of "responsible" than the extreme accusation of complicity you used. Resorting to semantical discussions will not save your non sequitur blaming Egypt.
Your arguments about pregnant women are all invalid and appeal to some cherry picked feel good emotion while ignoring non pregnant women and men suffering from the same genocide. Once again, field hospitals and medics are waiting right outside the border which Israel now fully cut off from Egypt.
The only complicity Egypt has is not fighting Israel for violating the agreement on the Rafah border.
As I thought, you wouldn't bother owning up to the fact that you lied about what I said directly back to me. And yet you think I'll discuss this with you anyway. Is there any reason I shouldn't just give up, report you for trolling and walk away at this point?