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Schaetzel suggested that Floyd died of high levels of catecholamines, a neurohormone associated with the flight-or-fight response, or Takotsubo myocarditis, a heart condition caused by intense emotional or physical experiences.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If Trump pardons this fuck we're all marching on Washington, right?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who's we? If it's the group that didn't bother showing up to vote, I wouldn't hold your breath.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Oof, that choice of words...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

"I have muh internet, muh couch and muh TV...I'm gud" - Americans who didn't show to vote.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump pardons this fuck

What a beautiful way to stoke division after the recent sliver of solidarity after the CEO assassination

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

There will be more

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Shit will straight up explode everywhere if so

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I am not from the US, so I might be out of league here, but haven't recent US protest movements been somewhat ineffectual?

In a global context, successful protests movements tend to take active measures; blockading of transport and key commercial zones, organisation on a level that makes security forces ask themselves uncomfortable questions.

To be fair, such movements also tend to have very strange support (be it broad based or high approval amongst a very large minority).

It is not my intention to be defeatist or overly critical, just some thoughts. I could be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly, yes. U.S. protest movements are generally not enough to make change. It takes a massive swing in public opinion before politicians consider doing something about it. Protesting helps, but it usually isn't enough. It took more than protesting to end the Vietnam War. Americans were majority in favour of it at the height of the protesting. And even when it started getting unpopular with the majority, Nixon didn't do anything about it until it benefitted him.

The only case I can think of where protesting (mostly) was enough- if you include the protests that did get violent and were deemed riots- is the civil rights movement. Even then, it took Kennedy getting assassinated for Johnson to put it through as a part of Kennedy's legacy. Was Kennedy ever going to push a civil rights act through? Was it all political hot air? We'll never know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With the US civil rights movement it's worth considering the international context too. The cold war was was it's early phase of intensity and it was difficult for US to compete in terms of soft power with formal discrimination laws. The world was undergoing intense decolonisation during that period.

That being said, I don't support a defeatist view of the viability of protest. But you do need clear goals and a sufficiently large core group of people willing to take risks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I wasn't trying to be defeatist. That's why I said they were not enough. More than protesting has to be done. In the American political system, that means a shitload of lobbying and networking to get to the ears of the people who need to hear it. Plus doing whatever you can to get the media on your side. The media turning on Nixon (and vice-versa) was a big help in turning people against Vietnam. There was a real "if the president says so, it's okay" attitude before that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Oh god, yes, it will, and I guarantee this time people will be armed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As we've seen recently, there are things that individuals can do to make a difference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe Derek and Luigi could be in Gen Pop together.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

If you are waiting for the infamous straw that broke the camels back, I'm afraid it broke long ago, the camel is dead and nothing happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Only half his sentence is federal (violating Floyd's civil rights). Trump can't pardon the murder charges.