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I'm having my comments I made the past few days receive zero engagements. It's not just me losing the early bird lottery too; my replies to a highly engaged comment has zero likes, while several comments immediately after me has double digits. It's nothing incendiary at all, just normal people's comments. But something just tripped the enigmatic AI and thenceforth I'm shadow banned.

Why you should know this?

Because YouTube is being a thought police between creators and their communities. It feels to me like 99.999% of creators on YouTube have no idea that this is happening, that honest to goodness people's engagements are never going to reach them on the platform; they're being silently silenced, by an AI that is figuratively a black box.

Look at this screenshot. If that's not damning evidence you tell me what is.

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The comment is straight up gone when viewing with a logged out tab. I'm definitely 100% shadow banned right now.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 1 year ago (4 children)

TIL people take commenting on YouTube seriously.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I’ve blocked the comments section with uBlock. Most of the time it’s just garbage in there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me: watching a car repair video

Some asshat: dId YoU kNoW bIdEn eAtS bAbBy'S?!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

a link to a religios video completely unrelated to the discussion

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I take supporting creators with engagements seriously.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

youtube doesn't actually care if you comment, "engagement" is through sharing, and watching. that's all youtube cares about for engagement. how many watch hours, how many adverts, how many click throughs on those adverts.

also literally every large social network has shadow bans, it's the only successful way to deal with unwanted elements. if you tell the unwanted element that they are banned, then they just go make a new account.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, it seems like engagement is through any kind of interaction, commenting, upvoting, even downvoting, are used to boost a video visibility, because, as you say, their ultimate goal is maximizing money from ads.

OP is right to support creators via comments.

Note also that YouTube has automatic filters for comments, which will remain visible for its author only, but the creator can also shadowban someone from their channel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"actually", no it doesn't. that's the old youtube logic. now youtube actively buries any kind of engagement like comments or liking, it's not useful. youtube does not care about who is leaving comments or not, and leaving comments itself is highly susceptible to bots.

again, all youtube cares about is about watch time, and if you share something with someone else as that leads to more watch time. people arguing in the comments has zero relevance on how many ads people see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It was my understanding from years ago. If it changed in between, I stand corrected.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Commenting isn’t support. Not sure if you know that. see, I’m commenting on your post- this is not support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like adverts and hammering nails into my head.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I only watch trashy scumbag creators and not nice ones who actually struggles when engagements really fluctuates on a whim. I also have never been on the other side to emphatize with them."

It's like Reddit. If you only consume trash the algo gives you you're not using it right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Article one, an electronics expert performs a circuit analysis.

Article two, a philosopher performs a societal analysis

Which one of these is 'doing it right'?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Then you would not comment on their videos, and the whole thought of "supporting" them via watching their videos is questionable but at least there's some direct, material, merit to that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably shouldnt. Youtube comments are rightful Serbian soil and should be treated as such

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This comment is hilarious, and it being downvoted is sad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Remove kommentkebab!