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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Jury nullification is absolutely allowed. It's the entire reason citizen juries exist. Otherwise, it would be better to have judicial panels determine guilt based on strict interpretation of the law.

The last line of defense against unjust laws and a corrupt judicial system is citizen juries who can refuse to convict.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Get on a jury, say exactly that, and see what happens.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Article I, Section 8 of the New York Constitution explicitly allows for Jury nullification. It says directly that the jury may determine the law in their ruling on the case.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I would still be very careful about when and where and how you say it. Quoting the state constitution at the right time should certainly give you more leeway than other states, but I wouldn't risk saying it too early.

It's best to just treat it as not allowed, at least until deliberation. Maybe even then.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They can lie and remove jurors all they like. They can't do shit about jury nullification if done right. It's the logical consequence of a jury not being forced to give a guilty verdict, and repeat trials being disallowed.

If you're a juror, it's dead simple. Keep your answers during selection honest, don't reveal anything you don’t have to, don't talk about jury nullification, vote not guilty no matter what, and express the reasonable doubts in a sensible manner. There are plenty of in depth how to guides out there as well.

It's legal. They just can also legally drop you the moment they think you're a nullifier.