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What is your opinion of Joseph Stalin? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 week ago by AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee to c/socialism@lemmy.ml

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I believe in socialism, but I feel Stalin shouldn't be idolised due to things like the Gulag.

I would like more people to become socialist, but I feel not condemning Stalin doesn't help the cause.

I've tried to have a constructieve conversation about this, but I basically get angry comments calling me stupid for believing he did atrocious things.

That's not how you win someone over.

I struggle to believe the Gulag etc. Never happened, and if it happened I firmly believe Stalin should be condemned.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That sounds to me like you were just dealing with bad faith actors, which isn't uncommon here unfortunately.

I think we both agree on what it's intended use is meant to be for. I guess you've just had the misfortune of dealing with people misusing the label to shut down any actual discussion.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

What I am describing is by far the most common usage of the term I have seen, to the point that it might as well be the only usage. The intended usage of "tankie" has become weaponized discussion-avoidance and serves as a cheap copout to prevent tackling uncomfortable topics.