this post was submitted on 02 Dec 2024
169 points (96.2% liked)
Europe
1688 readers
690 users here now
News and information from Europe 🇪🇺
(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)
Rules (2024-08-30)
- This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
- No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
- Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
- No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism.
- Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
- If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
- Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in [email protected]. (They're cool, you should subscribe there too!)
- Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
- No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
(This list may get expanded when necessary.)
We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.
If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.
If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the mods: @[email protected], @[email protected], or @[email protected].
founded 6 months ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I'm still voting the Greens, they're the least terrible party
It really is that simple. Kinda sad, but also kinda nice not having to bother wrecking my brain on who to vote for.
Which goes to show how far Germany has fallen politically. The Left party split into an irrelevant part and a pro-Putin hard on immigration part (BSW). the Greens moved towards anti immigrant racism, lackluster climate protection and support for wanted war criminals. The SPD became the party of high finance tax robbers, anti immigrant racism and austerity. And i don't want to get started on the right side of politics somewhere between fascists and borderline fascists.
And when was it better? The Left party was not really more radical left leaning then the Greens, when they actually were in government. The Greens approved the hollowing out of the welfare state with the SPD, which btw is currently less racist then under Schmidt.
No they didn't. They are the once that pushed the most forward while still being reasonable and open for compromise. They are the biggest/strongest reason that there is a move towards climate protection and they criticized war criminals all the time.
The more bullshit i hear against Greens the stronger i know a vote for the greens is the right thing to do.
I mean ... I really wish it were different but almost the entire Greens group in Bundestag voted in favor of the "Security Package" only a month ago, despite it introducing more social insecurity for migrants. Of course, the goal was saving the coalition — but they did so voting by in favor of a law that (pending court decisions) contains most likely unconstitutional/EU-incompatible sections to do so. And the coalition then failed less than a month after that.
Of course, large parts of the party base don't agree, and the last party conference showed that.
The Left was always just the leftovers of SED
That is false. The left in Western Germany cannot be a leftover from the SED. There was no SED in Western Germany. There is some personal continuity in former Eastern Germany, whose influence got less over time. By this logic the CDU, CSU, FDP and to some extent SPD could also be considered leftovers of the NSDAP.
I think the poster meant the party the Left.
While technically no proper part of Western Germany, you still might want to check out this.
This is something that you can find in discussions on here.
The left the party, not the left the political spectrum.