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Proofs start from axioms, which the ‘laws of nature’ as defined by you, are not. I don’t know what you mean, which is why I asked. You’re only revealing your own lack of critical thought here, this isn’t a gotcha like you think it is.
What do you mean by gotcha? I think you're just being difficult really.
No I just come from a STEM background where we have a bit of a rigorous process for concluding that something is true. You’re starting with the conclusion and saying everybody else is stupid and difficult who points out the flaws in your logic.
I don't know what STEM has to do with supernatural phenomena but ok. I also have a STEM background, but I haven't mentioned it until now because it's not relevant. I have not called anyone stupid here. The reason why I'm saying you're being difficult, is because you are so fixated on the definition of the word supernatural, that you're missing the whole point of this discussion. Even the mod called this out somewhere in this comment section. Most people here just want to be dictionaries, that they're missing the deeper part of the conversation.
I’m saying your initial question is problematic and a bit silly if we’re having such a hard time categorizing things between natural and supernatural. It isn’t that weird a place to start a discussion. I’m in the camp of people who thinks 1) the burden of proof is on the person making the claim, I.e. you, and 2) it’s difficult to discuss whether a thing exists if you cannot first define the thing.
When I say supernatural, I mean ghosts, spirits, deities, magic, aliens.... etc. That kind of stuff. They all fall under the word supernatural.