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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Interesting that he phrased it as liberalism.

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The American definition of Liberalism is the exact opposite of the original meaning, so maybe he was just being extra-oldschool?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What do you consider to be the original meaning?

[–] ellen_musk_0x@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Neo liberal / laissez-faire applies to both major parties in the USA.

Although, it's certainly becoming less so with the GOP than the Democrats. IE: bailouts for farmers affected by their own tariffs, mass deportations which will affect business, etc.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, and what ideological branch does a right winger who doesn't follow liberalism fall under?

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is a "right winger" who doesn't follow liberalism even a "right winger" at all, insofar as the term is used in modern US politics? Considering that without the central bird of liberalism there wouldn't be a need for the division into right and left wing. Maybe I'm off the mark, though?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ooooh, it was a leading question. I gotcha.

I agree with you 100%.

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To be liberal was to be open an accepting socially. The americans have changed it to mean to allow anything economically which is then coupled with bigotry because division makes the rich richer, or at least stops them being lynched

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bro this is just wrong on the fine details, starting with the fact that the original liberalism, and using that term specifically tends to mean the founding ideology of the American and French Revolutions btw, allowed racial chattel slavery and ending with the reality that the "liberal" parties in most countries besides America are conservatives.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

American liberals are not represented properly

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You'll get different answers from extreme right and left and neither of them know what the fuck it means

It means fuck nazis is what it means