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My only British friend is apolitical (and a bit of a dumbass, if I'm being honest). What's brexit like for your average Brit? I can't imagine having the right to just move (almost) anywhere in Europe and getting that ripped away from me, but I'll admit, I don't really know any of the other repercussions of leaving the EU.
It totally ruined a lot of people's lives. They had plans to go work somewhere in Europe maybe even live there. Now they can't do that.
The whole point of the European Union was it was supposed to be a bit like the United States without having to actually form a single nation. All of the countries would effectively act like States in one nation - they even setup Interpol to act like state troopers. Imagine if you suddenly couldn't move between states. Utterly stupid outcome, and 100% predicted.
Just like any government the EU council did do some brain dead things, but that wasn't a good reason to leave.
This has already become reality for all the women I know that are pregnant or trying to become pregnant.
In what way?
Things can go wrong unexpectedly during pregnancy. For example I just hosted a party on the weekend after Halloween and one of my friends was totally fine and having a good time, then suddenly in the middle of the night after the party she woke up in excruciating pain and bleeding heavily so went to the ER. It turns out she had an ectopic pregnancy, and was able to get the treatment she needed and is still alive instead of bleeding to death in the parking lot of the hospital.
What does that have to do with moving between states?
In some states, saving her life would have been illegal. Many women rightfully fear living in such states even if they are not currently pregnant because it's a dystopian nightmare. It's literal body horror. Imagine being raped, getting pregnant, being forced to carry the baby, then one day the pain is unbearable and the bleeding won't stop but the doctors just sit there and watch you die. Some might risk giving you a painkiller, others fear even that could put them at risk.
It's not that it's illegal to move to another state. But it might be a death sentence.
Oh, I understand what you mean now - since the laws in some states are so strict in this regard, that makes it dangerous to go live there as a woman.
I have heard there are states trying to track and prosecute women for leaving their home state to get an abortion, too.
Ask the women that got arrested for miscarrying their own baby, or were allowed to die after 40 hours of a half-born miscarried fetus hanging from them because doctors were unwilling to do anything that might be construed as aiding and abetting abortion.
What does that have to do with moving between states?
As an American, please don’t give anyone ideas. I really don’t want to need refugee status to go out west.
Fellow American, given the cost of living, I feel like I'd need refugee status to get out of the ~~methbelt~~ red states
I can’t imagine giving that up. As an American I once wanted us to join the shengen as one of my long term political pipe dreams.
Yeah, back in my more politically hopeful/naive days, I dreamt of it, too. :(
Economic disaster mainly
Did you mean to reply to @[email protected]? Tagging them so they see this too
To borrow @[email protected] words, an economic disaster. The price of basically everything skyrocketed overnight, even basic essentials, which pushed swathes of people below the poverty line, and even today is putting increasing pressure in foodbanks. The effects of the Tories' complete mismanagement of Brexit, the Covid19 pandemic, and the Russian Invasion of Ukraine only served to compound the damage.
This cumulative Brexit damage and mismanagement is what finally got the Tories kicked out (which they should've been years ago if you ask me) - and while the economic effects have slowed down somewhat recently, prices are still going up substantially, and I think we're gonna be feeling it a while longer.
It annoys me to no end that we knew this would happen, economists literally predicted this economic shitshow during the referendum and +50% of our population decided to just put their fingers in the ears and shout racist rhetoric instead.