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The newer ones are actually less well-built.
I have a T14 Gen 3 from work to confirm with. It's definitely not bad, but not as rugged.
Meanwhile, for personal use, I got a X230, and a W530, and they are much more solid. A lot of people said that T480 is the "last great Thinkpad", but I don't have one so I cannot confirm this.
I bought a T480 coming on a year ago as my first ThinkPad. I'm pretty happy with it, feels rugged and I've now fully conditioned myself to using the TrackPoint. Happy with the weight of it for the screen size, I have the 1080p one and it's not bad at all.
My work device is a L14 Gen 3 with the Ryzen 5 something and it's okay. I don't like the flatter TrackPoint buttons but they're still more than usable. I actually dropped it from about waist height from my car, and apart from some scuffs on the corners it's still completely functional.
I do miss the media keys and CPU upgradability of my old Latitude E6420 (had that bad boy up to an i7-2760QM, 16GB DDR3, 512GB SSD) but it was just so bulky in comparison and the screen maxed out at only 1600x900 (which yes, I upgraded on it too).
One more thing for me to go on a tangent about, ThinkPad X240 was a poor choice as a secondary. I thought I wouldn't care about the weird touchpad but it's barely usable for me, either as a touchpad or TrackPoint. I'm selling that shit on to get either an X220 or X250 onwards, depending on what comes up.
Oh hey! I used to have a Latitude E6430! I've seen my college buddy's E6420 and they're not too far apart (we'd get these upcycled laptops when we're lucky from a local e-waste company).
I can vouch for their ruggedness. Definitely not on par with Thinkpads, but they're pretty up there.
I didn't get the chance to upgrade much aside from the RAM and SSD, handed it down to a friend in need while upgrading my arsenal to Thinkpads.
One thing that bothered me is how heavy it is for a 14 inch laptop; that bezel is humongous. Also, it stings then I touch the palmrest wrong while charging.
Yeah the E6430, as far as I understand it, was mainly a chipset upgrade to support Ivy Bridge processors, with some additional niceties like USB 3.0 and minor cosmetic differences.
I also had that sting from it too! Usually when it was on charge, I just always thought it was some kind of static electricity or otherwise some poor grounding.
I don't really disagree, but as time goes by, those old ones show their age more and more. I'm using the same one as you for work, and I got a T580 off eBay for personal (replaces my T430s). I don't know what I'd get if not for used Thinkpads though. One day maybe I can afford/justify one of those boutique Linux laptops.
Edit: I briefly had a T480 and it had problems with the display... apparently widespread.
It does shows signs of aging, but not as bad as the other laptops of the same era.
I haven't heard of the T480 display problem until now, but then again, I've never had it myself.