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Tarrifs good cuz fuck china. hopefully things will get manufactured elsewhere
They will be manufactured elsewhere. Namely, places like Cambodia, Vietnam, and Mexico. Those factory jobs aren't coming to the US.
They were never going to be anyway
Hey look, it's one of the people who are going to suffer the consequences of their vote.
I'm not american
And if I were, I would have voted for Kamala
China's economy is already undergoing a transformation and they've started moving their capital overseas. Chinese owned businesses will operate out of lots of other countries.
Also: it takes a long time for supply chains to handle change as we saw with the pandemic. How many years of high prices for Chinese goods before all of the manufacturing has left China? That is assuming that other countries can immediately match Chinese efficiency and don't have higher prices for many more years due to needing to recoup the initial expenditure.
Yeah it sucks that capitalists outsourced (and continue to outsource even in the service sector) all of your jobs, but they're doing it because even the meager amount of your production that was coming back into your pocket rather than lining theirs is too much for them to tolerate you having.
You're attacking the problem from the wrong angle because that's how they want you to attack it. Funny how the wealthiest American oligarchs aren't threatened by any of this economic change that's supposedly here to help the average American.
You're worried about "right to work" while Elon added 70 billion to his net worth and thousands of people (generations of his offspring) will never have to work a day in their extravagant lives.
Keep worrying about CHY-nuh, though.
Nuh uh. I'm worried that China is actually going to pose a threat. I'm worried that the CCP is going to continually abuse their populus. I'm worried that China will continue to play dirty like they always have.
If they take their operations elsewhere, the problem will expand and the problem would unironically suck. I just hope to god that the other countires they're expanding out to don't allow absolute exploit of their people and have proper inspections, health & safety, certs, standatds, etc.
USA literally uses child labor overseas
the usa literally uses child labor internally lmfao. The difference is that in normal countires, there's actual bramches of gov that do their job.
I mean. In the us, it's a solvable problem. Take some time and lobby and encourage others too.
American industry has been pivoting away from China for over a decade, because their wages are outpacing India and Indonesia.
Meanwhile, Chinese exports are flooding into Latin America, rapidly improving the economic condition of big countries like Mexico and Brazil.
But sure. Let's see how this pans out.
China's wages? You realise half of the numbers the ccp gives simply doesn't match reality?
I mean sure, but it's not just the exports but China's disguised loans. There's a lot of reaons behind this.
at the end of the day, if the a country want to have products made with slave labor or genocide, they're going to. I have morals.
Sure thing, bro.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=china+fudging+numbers
just google it 🥱
You know what can't get "manufactured" in the U.S.? Things that can't be grown in the U.S.
So enjoy much more expensive coffee, tea, chocolate and even Coca-Cola.
As far as I'm aware, you don't need much (or anything at all really) from China to make a bottle of pepsi, coffee or chocolate.
Maybe tea but hell China is the leader in exports but doesn't disproportionally export more than Kenya or Sri Lanka.
And yet you're not aware that the tariffs will not only apply to China and it was never suggested that they only apply to China.
Yeah no, that's fucking idiotic. I'm only talking about china. as per my first comment
China does not exist in isolation and cheering on a terrible economic plan because you see the potential of one good thing coming out of it is a bit silly. Especially when China still has the rest of the world to trade with.
Okay, then lets lift the restrictions and see what happens after they invade taiwan. While we're at it, why not lift everything that the US has put on Russia and see how they skullfuck ukraine.
Again. I'm only advocating for tarrifs against china. I could not give less of a shit about trump's grand plan. China literally considers themselves in a trade war against the US. Why are you so against not trading with a country that literally considers you an enemy?
You don't seem to get it. This is like saying "I advocate for cutting off the pinky toe but ignoring the rest of the foot" while the doctor is standing there with a saw, ready to push you out of the way.
I seem to have addressed this by calling it fucking idiotic already. If trump tarrifs everything, china included or not, USA's fucked. I thought this is very clear.
tarrifing a country who considers itself in a trade war is honestly a no brainer wtfs. Every western country should do it
I know what you said. And I'm trying to tell you you're commending Mussolini for making the trains run on time.
Oh look, another rube who doesn't understand what a tariff is, how it works, or what it's supposed to be used for.
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I fully agree with screw China, but learn to read a damn label to avoid their low quality trash. The looming Mango Mussolini trade war will increase prices.