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‘Mass deportations would disrupt the food chain’: Californians warn of ripple effect of Trump threat
(www.theguardian.com)
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And you thought grocery prices were high now.
I'm not sure how Trump benefits from this. Sure it causes chaos in the short term, but what's his actual goal here? Just to trade favors with Russia to keep himself out of prison?
The thing is he could do nothing, and then tell his supporters, "I did it! I deported all the bad guys!" And they would cheer and say, "Wow everything is better now. We love Trump."
When you've convinced the people of a fake problem you can just give them a fake solution. "I scared away the monster under your bed."
Even if it gets worse, it's not like his supporters will ever make the connection.
Unfortunately both the voter and the politician are lying, they aren't trying to solve a problem, they want actual ethnic clensing. They don't want to see brown kids of any status legal or otherwise around schools. All there efforts are trying to kill non whites faster and increase white birth rates, while ethnicity clensing non whites. If you aren't aware of this, welcome to the thing the USA has been doing since 1776.
The first time they had grifters, this time they have ideologues. I'm morbidly curious how this will pan out, that sort uses violence to impose a reality that doesn't exist. It's an inherently unstable rejection of material existence. And if Trump dies, no one else around him can ride that buck under him, they do not have the charisma; they're creepy fucking weirdos. He got less votes this time, and several right wingers have already attempted to kill him, so his hold isn't as steady to begin with. My inner optimist is wondering if they may learn to regret what they bought.
https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/the-eighteenth-brumaire-of-donald-j-trump/
I cringe every time someone describes Trump as charismatic. I know what you mean and I don't disagree with the sentiment, but the fact that there are people in this world who find his demeanor appealing will never be anything but horrific to me.
Most folks are extremely boring, I suspect the only reason I find him so acharismatic is cause I am autistic and can barely stand most people let alone a used car salesman. Actually ive met plenty of interesting used car salesmen, one of them actually restored and sold off old military vehicles he either bought from random folks or via auction.
I think this is the most likely solution. He knows that removing immigrants is bad for the economy, he just needs his racist supporters to believe that he is kicking them out.
Well there's your first problem.
He just wanted to avoid jail, that's how he benefits. He just wants to golf and not go to jail
And save his best friend musk from jail
To cause enough instability in all aspects of society that it affects everybody. Once everybody is in the same position, it's easier to convince them all of what (or who) to blame, and people's desperation will allow them to justify whatever atrocities are "necessary" to remedy their problems. Right now, it's "You're poor because of immigrants". Tomorrow, it'll be "You're in danger because of trans people". Soon, "You're being surveilled because of dissenters", "You're unhappy because of women", etc.
When they control the problems, they control the solutions. Disrupting the food chain is the fastest, most immediate way to grab society by the throat; we'll do anything before we go on a diet.
The deportation thing? It benefits corporate interests by giving them another excuse to raise prices by more than than their actual costs.
They loved the cover COVID gave to raise prices and increase profits.
But they don’t need an excuse. They can just do the thing.
See, they're still just barely scared enough of the populace that they feel the need for a cover story. They worry that if they just exorbitantly raise prices without a "valid enough" reason, the working class will actually turn against them. But enough of the working class still has some faith in capitalism for them to believe the corpos when they throw up their hands performatively and say "there's nothing we can do! It's the market forces!", so they keep the cover story to placate the masses and prevent us from doing too much research on how to build guillotines.
Don't worry, we're only a few years away from the point at which they stop caring about the facade!
This one won't be for Trump, this will be for the cabinet members who are white nationalists.