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Because you now did it to yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Well, I for one will question it, because I don't understand what I'm seeing. How the flying fuck is this happening?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Calling this apathy is letting Nazis off easy. This isn't apathy, this is a massive chunk of the US population willingly acting on this. Today is truly a tragedy.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They're no less at fault. Fascists were always going to vote. Non-voters had the power to decide. Self-titled "centrists" and "apoliticals", or those who adopted a stupid moral high ground because of one thing that Harris did or did not say, made a choice that amounted to "I'm okay with the worse outcome". They failed to vote against the worse outcome.

Fascism is a cancer that should be excised with prejudice. So is abstention. And Americans should hold them equally responsible for every harm and every life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Non-voters can turn fascist too. There's no guarantee that if everyone voted, the results wouldn't be the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Except everything we know about voting in America disagrees with you

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I'm fully expecting a "night of the long knives" type of situation now. Hope to be wrong about it, but I haven't been so far.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apathy? This isn't apathy. Apathy doesn't vote. Hate votes.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

That's the problem, you see. Fascists and zealots were always going to vote. The decision was in the hands of the people who didn't, and they're at fault exactly as much as fascists.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because the DNC would rather get Trump elected than listen to their constituency.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That’s right.

Like is 2016, the Dems have to own this. Like 2016, they won’t.

You can’t offer sweet fuck all to most of the electorate and then ask for their vote.

You can’t back a man perceived as infirm, say everything is fine, only to ditch him 6 weeks out.

Can’t send billions to Israel and Ukraine when the price of food & shelter has skyrocketed.

You can’t maintain the system that creates billionaires but increases poverty and expect the masses to show up for you.

The dems lost to convicted felon. That is how shit they are at doing this.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

While yes I'm sure it contributed, I think a lot of people voted because their rent and groceries were too expensive, so that means "vote for the party not in power". It makes zero sense, but I have to hope that they're just uninformed and desperate and not eager for what Trump and 2025 crew want.

Ultimately though, it's on them. It was their responsibility to know what they're voting for, and they failed. Now we can only hope they're too incompetent to do what they want.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the US, people are apparently convinced that every week, the president decides on the price of groceries, petrol and rent.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

That's exactly it, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you cannot blame the moronic masses for voting for this apparently

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

⬆️ exempli gratia

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah make sure you never ever ever ever ever ever ever blame voters. It's always Democrats and never voters responsible. God fuck this world and every moron in it

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fact of the matter is: People need more than sticks to do anything; they need carrots. Nobody, me included, cares if you don't like how people didn't fear your preferred stick enough; that's just how people work. The failure remains squarely on the DNC who, having the perfect stick in Trump, refused to prepare a carrot and opted for a piece of shit hoping to attract some flies from the neighboring mountain-sized pile of shit. Getting angry at voters is like getting angry at the wind for destroying your paper house; I mean okay but maybe don't build a paper house?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Great mental gymnastics to pretend voters aren't responsible for their reprehensible actions! I'll try and adapt that to dodge blame every time I fuck up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not American so I didn't really fuck up anything. I still it's the responsibility of candidates to get people to vote for them. I don't care if you didn't like it, but expecting people to vote for a pile of shit to avoid a bigger pile of shit doesn't work, has never worked and will never work. The DNC, enabled by "hold your nose and vote for her" folks, failed to consider this basic fact and that lost them the white house and senate. Well, congrats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Way to misunderstand the simple point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They're not the one misunderstanding anything.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

White women, Hispanics, and black men all came out in droves voting for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Always relevant...

(...if slightly ableist)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Inflation, housing, and further on the right xenophobia. Clinton was right, "it's the economy, stupid".