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We might be living the final moments of not being terrified what the US President is going to do
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this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2024
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If the Dems win and they don't put a boot on the neck of this fascist movement it will take over eventually.
But that would require them to reign in the very same companies that sponsor them. One can hope, but it seems unlikely.
Companies don't want fascism, they just want tax breaks. Civil war and dictatorships are bad for business.
Fascism is very good for businesses. They squash dissent like unions and the publics voice. Then only the billionaire class will have a voice.
Billionaires in China have been disappeared before. There's only the head of state that matters in fascism.
Only the chosen few businesses, and entirely at the whims of the dictator. Your CEO pisses off the leader, your business goes bye bye.
Fascists weren't bad for companies like VW, BMW, and Hugo Boss.
Tell that to Volkswagen, BMW, Messerschmitt, Audi, Deutsche Bank.... And all these guys: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust
It's a cult of personality. Jack Smith and the Judiciary just needs to step on the gas as soon as the election is called for Harris, get him gone. It'll be interesting to see where the GOP goes from there, but MAGA will be dead. Would anyone else be happy with your normal everyday NeoCons running the GOP again?
Like what happened after the last presidential election?
Us on the left need to stop depending on a government whose military is overwhelmingly in support of Trump. We already know nearly all police are the same fascists (not to mention uvalde)
Arm yourself and train your family. Be silently ready for anything, don't make yourself a target
If the US military was overwhelmingly in support of Trump Jan 6 would have gone completely differently.
Top brass seem to swing the other way though. These are generations that tangled with Russia and china for decades now. They see much more behind the curtain than others do.
My sisters biological father just retired as a captain from New York City Police.
When the subject of homosexuals came up one time he got all red in the face in was stopping about how he would use his AR-15 against any gay person that talked to his (adult) children.
During the Floyd protests I overheard him talking on the phone about shutting down Bridges to prevent movement.
There is a video on YouTube of him kicking down a memorial well the family of the deceased are crying on the street. He brings us up with pride.
He is a die hard maga fascist. He was a leader for hundreds of officers. He is their example
Luckily the police and the military have a bit different standards. Army generals are mostly well educated and very well read men who deal with the whole world and not just their neck of the woods, and possibly more important is that in the world of the military they do not have the monopoly on violence. They have to deal with adversaries who are equals and thus changes the power dynamic A LOT. A police captain can in the end just escalate all the way to the national guard and stomp out anything.. in the military they cannot as their escalations immediately leads to deaths and escalates all the way to nuclear Armageddon. So luckily they are of a different breed.
But now, trump might replace the top brass with his loyalists, (loyalty > competence) fast tracking some appointments of people that normally not have made it to that level.
The guard rails are off.. the world is in for a wild ride.
He literally said that he would do that, citing the loyalty of Hitlers pawns as the example to live up to. This isn't hyperbole these are the words that came out of his mouth.
Whoever he puts in power will not uphold the Constitution or the rights of our citizens. He will exact the wishes of their leader without question. They will be hired based on this 'loyalty'
Yup, he said he will. I don't know how this works in practice, but this is dangerous. Project 2025 is very clear about stacking the institutions.
I see a path where we become very similar to Russia. Oligarchs controlling the nation with absolute loyalty to a single leader. An all powerful alliance that would erode our freedom until journalists are assassinated by the military at the president's orders.
We already have the largest prison population in the world, imagine if Trump gave them an offer to fight for him or remain in prison, just like the mercenaries in Russia
This ^
Here's the problem with that, though. It's not going to be like there will be roving goon squads going from door to door snatching away your wives and daughters or anything. Even the MAGA-heads are just barely clever enough not to form themselves into any kind of entity that you could physically fight.
Instead, they're going to chip away at everybody with asinine laws and legislation, selective enforcement and remote harassment, by filing mountains of frivolous lawsuits, etc. They'll seize property. They'll get you fired from your job. They'll kick you off of your health insurance and freeze your bank accounts. Those responsible are never going to actually expose themselves in any capacity in which they can get got, because they're cowards; they're going to hide behind their desks and layers of security and fences and metal detectors and cops and the secret service. If it turns to outright violence vis-a-vis war in our own cities, it would be monumentally stupid for them to send troops marching down the street, and they won't. They'll just remotely bombard an entire city block and blame all the collateral damage on "leftists" or "wokeism" or whatever. And idiots will believe it, and then blame the victims.
"That's ridiculous," you say. "The government would never bomb anyone on US soil."
You want to bet?
Operation MOVE
The police literally fire bombed American children in an American home
I think everything you said is correct but you are forgetting that Trump said he will give immunity to all police. That means that police can now break the law, they can rape and kill you with immunity. You don't think they're going to use this to their advantage?
I don't know if you've known any leadership in policing, but they are bloodthirsty. My sister's biological father is a recent retiree from the NYPD as a captain. You would not believe the stories I've heard in the conversations I've overheard him have with his officers. I've actually recorded some of them just in case. Many of them seriously want a reason to kill someone and get away with it.
Dems are chasing Repubs, so either party winning won't really change this fact.
With Dems we're delaying this outcome. With Repubs we're accelerating it.
Which fascist movement? american or israel?
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