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US state propaganda is when you repeat easily verifiable facts about the Russo-Ukrainian War on .ml
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this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2024
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I ask this again? Why is every single major instance still federated with them?
Literally what the fuck. We have GEOTAGGED IMAGES OF CONFIRMED ACTIVE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS INVADING UKRAINE IN 2014, and it's called misinfo.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/opposite-of-opsec-russian-soldier-posts-selfies-from-inside-ukraine/
I'm brand new to Lemmy.
I've seen multiple comments suggesting that .ml be defederated. It was the first thing I saw when I got here. Sounds like there's a bad apple and nothing is being done about it
the main reason is because the people who run lemmy.ml are actually the people whi created lemmy.
Also welcome.
[email protected] and [email protected] are useful for new users.
Also if you’re looking for an instance that has ML defederatrd but is still well federated with everything else I recommend lemmy.cafe
It's the original apple, so it's historical reasons.
I think it'll happen though, somebody just needs to bite the bullet and be the first brave one.
Its been kind of an ongoing thing, best to just kind of tune out *ml
I have zero intention of blocking any .ml but, hilariously, I see they’ve deleted one of my comments. I “think” it was because I had the absolute audacity to suggest that there might be one or two bad apples in Hamas. I’ll still pop by their instances though… I’m secure enough to read things I don’t agree with without having a meltdown and trying to erase it from existence. Having said that I do realise why a lot of people would prefer to sidestep the ml area of the fediverse.
I'm gonna guess because the instance is administrated by lemmy main devs and despite them being tankies the quality of discussion is still higher than in other instances. You can compare lemmy.ml local home with lemmy.world
I've seen you urging US voters to back third parties despite the mathematical realities of FPTP voting. Of course you prefer discussion on .ml.
What's the alternative? Urging them to vote for a fascist or for a genocide supporter?
Lemmy.world home is filled with memes and news from mass media. Lemmy.ml home looks ten times more serious.
What will that accomplish? Tangibly.
Unsupporting the red and blue party will shift the power somewhere else from the same two parties that have been ruling for a century. The only thing preventing someone else from winning is the narrative that a third party can never win. The same narrative continues to be told election after election decade after decade, it's not so hard to see how it's been used by the government to never really change administration and cycle in power the red and blue party.
Let's pretend for a second the largest third parties were viable. That leaves us a brain worm antivaxxer, an anarchocapitalist, and a Russian asset. Are any of those really better?
They aint gonna give you a straight answer assuming they will answer at all, cause they are lying about their reasons either to you and/or themselves. But yeah even including third parties the Dems are generally the best, Democratic Socialists and localised parties not withstanding since they generally caucus with the Dems nationally.
Why are you mistalking about others? talk for yourself
US government is supporting a genocide, ramping up WW3 and entrusting elon musk the military space sector. I think it's going to take anyone some serious effort to make it worst than that.
If you really don't think things can get worse, I don't know what to tell you. If you really think this is as bad as it gets, buckle in.
I have seen you defending Israel of course you prefer .world
I don't agree with the atrocity they are committing. Link me to my defense of Israel or (my preference) stop telling lies.
I’ve completely blocked them and lemmy is still decent.
I would have thought there would be more concerns with then breaking US/AU or EU laws by there being content explicitly supporting designated terrorist organisations like hezbollah, which is illegal in most of the western world.
I do not support their tankie mindset and ban policies but i don't really wish lemmy devs to be persecuted by authorities, especially over comments in an internet forum.
I don’t wish for that either, but what I mean is I would have expected mods from other instances to be more weary of the potential legal issues.
WARY
Sorry friend, you were the unlucky perpetrator that I saw today. This is my Long Defeat that I will fight until I die.
TIL. Thanks. Dunno I use weary or wary enough to have ever even thought about it. 😆