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Meanwhile, Tesla is showing off pretend robots to serve drinks to Elon stans. Don’t look behind the curtain.
Now, I've no love for Musk or his BS but I keep hearing that they were actors in costumes, yet they were actually remote controlled robots, like you might see at a theme park. If instead of trying to pass them off as automatonomous, AI driven robots, they were to market them as surrogates (like the movie) and focused on longer range remote connections for them that would be far less stupid. They might even sell if they weren't associated with a dumbass.
Teslabot only needs AI control to be a viable human worker replacement. They will release it earlier than they should and there will be problems that they learn through public beta testing(see Tesla autonomous driving.)
Atlas is incubating in an internal beta so it can be exactly what they want to deliver. I honestly think Atlas is good enough to be put in the real world as-is, but I applaud their patience and desire to have as close to perfection as possible.
I expect Teslabot to retail over their $30k estimate, probably closer to $60k at turn-key. Atlas I expect to be closer to $100k or more with support contracts. Teslabot will probably be the hot product for the wealthy to act as a butler or grocery getter when paired with an autonomous Tesla. Atlas will be more commercially successful but a small number of rich nerds would totally get one to play with.
"All we're missing is the single hardest piece, which we have been failing to make work in cars for years"
Failing to make something work and failing to make it work perfectly are entirely different things.
Autonomous driving works, but it isn't as good as a human driver at handling abnormal conditions. They really fucked up going all visual instead of combining visual and LIDAR.
Then they fucked up further by not admitting it and continuing to go down a blind alley.
Based on my experience with how destructive a robot vacuum can be, there is 0% chance I would let a Tesla developed robot exist in my house.
Can you imagine a Teslabot stepping in shit and dragging that through the house? It wouldn't even be contained to one floor. It would be everywhere.
I definitely would want an Atlas over the Teslabot even as a surrogate. It would fucking suck to fall down and actually have to leave your house to get back up again.
I like the Atlas better, because I could jump. Also I think it looks cooler.
From what I understand his initial reveal of the Tesla robots did have a human in a bot costume dance on stage which is why some people assumed it was the same situation with the more recent demonstration. That demo was remotely controlled as you said.
I don't even understand why they would lie about that. There's loads of uses for a humanoid remote controlled body.
Domain experts that need to carry out dangerous tasks, people being able to carry out tasks at distant locations without the hassle of actually traveling there - very useful when you only intermittently require a physical presence.
I have long since thought that bomb diffusing should be done via a robotic body. Much better to risk a replaceable humanoid drone than the whole human.
To cover up his lies and false promises.
Because the point of Tesla bots is to replace workers, not allow them to be comfortable
those are the basic requirements of being a con artist and a cult
From the couch, I don't understand why a humanoid body would be best for this... We humans have to work with what we initially had, but why wouldn't a robot be better? Seems like even a wheeled/threaded cart, or a quadruped with arms could be more practical in a lot of situations...
The idea isn't to be hyper specialized to a specific task. It's to be hyper generalized to fit into spots already being filled by human workers. The goal is for the machine to be placed in the role of a paid human worker without the need to specialize anything else in the environment, a drop-in automation solution.
Because a human body has no capability of controlling a non-human design. My fingers bend the way human fingers bend, I can't make them do anything else.
If you all design an interface to emulate human behavior then it needs to have human capabilities and human limits otherwise I can't control it.
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100% that Optimus can't even recover themselves after falling down, or even self balance when bump into. They have to clear the line for Optimus to carefully walk toward the crowd lol.