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Let’s compose a list of the all shortcomings so that we can address them and eventually hit 100k mau.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

The politics is very left wing and very unwelcoming to any other viewpoint.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Mexican here, I've seen it multiple times, the current party in power in my country is everything Lemmy criticises of the Republicans, the CCP and Putin (hell, the expresident bowed down to Trump, Putin and Maduro) but since they claim to be the left and the current ~~puppet of the cult leader~~ president is a woman, most of Lemmy rushes to their defense every time someone criticises them because muh left.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Tankies gonna tankie

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed, basically if you are moderate, you have to block 2 or 3 major instances to escape from extremist content. That's very unwelcoming for new users.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

if a "viewpoint" is based on lies coming from a convicted felon rapist traitor to the country, than anyone holding that viewpoint can actually go fuck themselves

edit: as a reminder, we're talking about people who cause and advocate for this

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago

Staunch Obama and Biden supporter here ... I've read Obama and Kamala's most recent books...

You do not need to be a Trumpie to get annoyed with the "everything is emshittified", "fuck capitalism", etc posts and comments.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

OP never stated what country they're from, you've just gone on some rant about Trump without even thinking that they may not be from the US.

Classic US defaultism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

true, there are non-US right-wingers. but in this case the commenter mentioned he might just vote for trump "out of spite" LOL

so my "US defaultism" was correct

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I put a little flag in my username and still get us defaultism. So i guess the Americans are just morons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not every method of viewing Lemmy shows things like that... all I see is "[email protected]," no flags or whatever. Thankfully, I have a good memory - so I'll be able to remember that you're an international twat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

Well stop using a shit client that doesnt support displaynames.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

What a perfect example of what the top comment meant. "You either 100% agree with us or you are a trumpist/fascist/nazi", no in-between, no nuance, no moderation allowed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

“You either 100% agree with us or you are a trumpist/fascist/nazi”

if someone's voting for trump, then yea. that's exactly what they are.

if you sit down to dinner with 8 people and one of them is a nazi, then you're eating with 8 nazis

maybe trump voters don't come to lemmy because they know they'll get shat on. they're free to make an instance of their own like hexbear and lemmygrad.

but the thing about trump voters is that you can't have a rational discussion with them, because they throw everything they don't like to hear out the window as "fake news"

so yea. they can still go fuck themselves

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Not everyone who is right wing is voting for trump.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Are you seeing Lemmy being intolerant of all right wing discussion, or just Maga bullshit like sol is railing against

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I see both. Even moderate conservative view point tend to get straw manned as being MAGA. Heck I see left leaning people who just didn't like that Biden was running get bashed for suggesting the Democrats run a different candidate. Now I see the same on anything less the pro Kamala.

If Harris anonymously posted a self criticism on here I wouldn't be surprised if people called her MAGA. That's not to say everyone here acts that way but a vocal percentage does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Anytime you mention anything right wing you get a lot of downvotes and a lot of railing against MAGA. It is almost enough to make me vote for Trump just out of spite. There might be a "silent majority" that doesn't do that, but the evidence that anyone can see: comments and votes are clearly intolerant of all right wing discussion.

Just look at all the different replies I've got - most of them instead of looking at Lemmy in the mirror proved the point by jumping onto railing against MAGA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

That's because all of right wing politics is hurting people for no good reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

To me, voting for Trump "out of spite" doesn't sound like something a person would do if they cared about others. I hope you won't do that.

I think the problem is more that maga has taken over the right wing, and instead of distancing themselves from maga, a lot of conservatives end up defending it. Which should not be tolerated imo.

If someone is intolerant of maga, what is so hard about saying "I don't like them either"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

oh that's right-- conservatives also push for privatizing and deregulating everything, small government (except when it comes to gay marriage and gay books in the library), mandatory jesus for everyone, no taxes for billionaires, all the taxes for peasants, blaming all the world's problems on mexicans-- what am i leaving out? oh yea, this

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Let me head over to lemmy.ml and create a list of all the things the left wing stands for too. There is no particular agreement on any side on all issues. Governments have often done a poor job of what they should do, and when they do something you don't get any options. There are many regulations causing more harm than good. And so on - there is plenty of observation and logic behind the various right wing positions - you don't have to agree with them, but please start thinking about things from other points of view and understanding instead of attacking someone who makes one point on every possible thing you disagree with assuming they both support that other thing as well, and also that they are evil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

a vote for R is objectively the wrong vote

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

and very unwelcoming to any other viewpoint.

Thank you for providing a great example of this

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

i mean, top comment started with a criticism that generalized the entirety of lemmy, so i understood it to be a thing that was totally fine in this thread

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I’m pretty sure Lemmy has a right wing bloc of instances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Ive had a look af them and most are filled with posts that have 80% dislikes on them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe but they are not in my feeds.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

Hmmm interesting, I should search for them.

I could see libertarians starting up their own instances.