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This goes to all the peeps who support parliamentary voting as a valid political action.

If your society has been steadily progressing towards fascism for decades regardless of your voting (like the USA has been), is there any point, any action which will convince you that voting ultimately doesn't work?

Is so, what is it? What would your government have to do for you to acknowledge that voting doesn't matter? For many people, it was of course, supporting genocide (which is why so many states desperately try to deny a genocide is ongoing). But if genocide isn't, what is yours?

Eventually a society which has been slowly progressing towards fascism regardless of voting, will become fascist. And we all know what comes after that. There's always one thing where I think even the most hardcore parliamentarian will agree that voting ultimately didn't work: When they're personally being force-marched to the mass grave-sites.

Would that be your point? Or does it come earlier? If so, when?

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

All of that and more is a red line for me, which is why I'm not voting and doing everything that actually matters to stop them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

not voting

doing everything that actually matters

not voting

doing everything

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everything

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yes "that actually matters" being the key words

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can you outline those things that actually matter, that you are doing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Direct action for mutual aid. Anarchism. I'm helping my fellow humans outside of the capitalist system with my every waking moment that is not dedicated to survival.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

can you be more specific than just saying direct action? Like what does this action entail? What do you go out and do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

My main focus and expertise is making and running FOSS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can I ask why you aren't voting third party? Is it to avoid at all legitimizing the relevant institutions/systems?

I'm voting third party so that, hypothetically, Dems can see that those votes exist, and maybe consider trying to earn them by adopting leftist policy positions. I know they very likely won't though, tbc, but it's a more likely event than a third party candidate winning

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. The whole system is rotten, and any votes is legitimizing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

That makes sense! That's how I feel about veganism. Even if the meat has already been processed and will go to waste if I don't eat it, I'm still not eating it