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As a man I have to say this has not been my experience growing up at all. I can not relate to anything you just said. Maybe your small circle lacked proper role models?
While it wasn't my experience either, it has been the experience of some men that I talk to, and if you ever look at how conservative men talk, you can see that the "traditional man" concept is still being pushed on them.
If does seem like it's getting better, but as you said, it definitely depends on your social and family circles.
Seems to be a regional thing from comments. But I've seen it up and down East Coast US and Midwest as well.