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Proton statement on new Italian draconian laws? (torrentfreak.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The new "Omnibus" law in italy tries to block piracy by basically creating a situation in which you will face jail time if you get caught watching an illegal streaming (or your IP does) and ISP and IP providers (they name VPN and DNS services) will face jail time too if they don't notify the authorities of "illegal activity" done by their users.

E.g. if I watch a soccer streaming from a pirate site, apparently, my VPN provider (in this case, Proton) will have to notify the authorities that I am watching that pirated content.

This is madness in so many ways, starting by the fact that the law implies that both my ISP and my VPN provider must spy my traffic to see if I am watching any illegal content.

I wanted to know if Proton has anything to say about all of this for their Italian customers. How are you guys going to face this? Will you simply stop providing the service? Will you ignore the law because you are not an italian company? Or will you spy our traffic to see if we are watching a soccer game?

I'm quite worried right now about the implications of this law to my privacy. Not because I pirate content but because the punishement for those who don't notify the authorities means that to avoid legal problems, services like Proton will have to actually read our traffic.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

from https://protonvpn.com/features/swiss-based

We are headquartered in Switzerland, which has some of the world's strongest privacy laws. Switzerland is also outside of EU and US jurisdiction and is not a member of the 14 eyes surveillance network.

When you connect to Proton VPN, you enjoy the same legal protections that ensure the privacy of all Swiss citizens. Proton VPN is built by the same group of scientists who met at CERN and founded Proton Mail, the largest encrypted email provider. We are based in Switzerland, allowing us to pass the benefits of Swiss data protection on to you.

Under Swiss data protection regulations, we are not required to comply with requests that are not supported by a Swiss court order.

they don't have to respect laws made by Mussolinette & co.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well, the Italins just pressure the Swiss Government like the Fench did.

https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/09/07/protonmail-criticised-for-passing-arrested-french-climate-activist-s-ip-address-to-police

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

this has been discussed many times on this community

iirc, that person didn't use a vpn to hide their ip in addition to using an apple service with their real name from that same ip.

if you're just degoogling, why not but if you're an activist you should be more careful.

from the article you linked

While Swiss law can compel email providers to log user data, the same rules do not apply to VPNs, which ProtonMail's parent company Proton Technologies also offers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Mussolinette is a great name lol