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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Science is indistinguishable from magic, if you don't care to learn how science works.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

But... if there's a consistent system along which magic works which can be studied/researched/formulated, then isn't it just... science?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

nobody is convincing me assembly programming isnt magic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Study a 6502. It's just electrons doing the only thing they can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I don't know about the best (because I started back in the 80s with a commodore 64, not exactly repeatable) but a good way is this guy: https://eater.net/6502

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Assembly isn't magic. Computers compiling/interpreting high-level languages into assembly, and making everything works without constantly breaking IS MAGIC

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The keyword is consistent. Some settings have magic as inherently chaotic and difficult to control.

A good rule of thumb is that if a fantasy setting has a school for magic, it's probably a science. If it's knowledge passed from master to magically gifted student, it's probably not very consistent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

magic works

Humans have yet to prove it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well, it sometimes does

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Watch "Agatha all Along" - the series is managing to answer exactly this question with a great script and cast.

/s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I absolutely feel like in a thousand years, we'll talk to a machine and not even know how it works.

Hell, I look at the computer in front of me and only feel like I know a fraction of what's going on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Hail the Omnissiah!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's what neural networks are now. We do not know how it works under the hood. We just feed it training data.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

We know how it works, but we can't explain exactly how it got to the answers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

We do, though.

Just to make sure my understanding was accurate, I asked Gemini to critique my explanation:

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Unless it’s lying to me about itself, I was able to explain the basics of it in two relatively simple sentences. Of course that doesn’t cover everything, but Gemini thinks that’s a pretty good overview. After expanding on each point in its reply, it said this:

I think a lot of the confusion over these models stems from hype and marketing that makes them out to be more than what they are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Magnets, how do they work?