this post was submitted on 23 Sep 2024
24 points (92.9% liked)

World News

39019 readers
2435 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

18% price increase is pretty steep.

That said, 60 euro for a month is roughly 3e/day for commuting. That sounds reasonable to me as a tourist who is used to paying $5-10/day for a subway pass in Europe. In Munich, a daily pass is 9 euro, so this is a bargain.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's unfortunately the exact wrong way to look at it.

The entire point of this ticket was to be cheap enough so a lot of new people get it, but don't use it that often - a bit like a voluntary tax, that subsidizes the ticket for those who actually need it.

There's a reason the regular monthly tickets are much more expensive - they cover the actual costs. If only commuters buy the ticket, public transit providers will make massive losses - and opt out of the ticket.

I'm 80% sure, this is a move to effectively kill the Deutschlandticket. The one good thing our current government managed to get done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They should just tax every citizen the extra and make it free. it is still cheaper than all the road maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That's politically almost impossible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Interesting background info. I hadn't thought of it that way.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

To add on to what the other person said, this is very likely a targeted move to kill the ticket and mock the people that want it. Before it got renamed, it was called the 49€-Ticket, which followed in the footsteps of Corona-time 9€-Ticket, which allowed people to use all regional transport for nine bucks a month. It was hugely successful. When Corona stimuli were cut, it got replaced with what we have now. Since then, a lot of people have demanded to bring back a permanent 9€-Ticket.

The transportation minister, Volker Wissing from the right-wing, corrupt, neoliberal FDP instead announces he's going to raise the price, by... 9€. This is just a spit in the face of everyone wishing for affordable transit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

In the Boston area, a T (metro) pass is $90, and commuter rail (regional, with access to some metro areas in surrounding states) ranges from $214-426/month. So this looks like a steal to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's also significantly cheaper than owning a vehicle, (though obviously, a vehicle will take you door-to-door anywhere, doesn't expose you to inclement weather, and can haul cargo, so it's not an exact comparison).

In the US, a person averages about 42 miles of travel a day:

And the average aggregate cost per mile in the US of a (new) vehicle is 54.56¢/mile for a small sedan to 86.21¢/mile for a large pickup.

Figure 30 days to a month, and that's ~$687/month for the small sedan to $1086/month for the large pickup.

At current exchange rates, 58 EUR is ~$64.50; less than a tenth as much, if you can get around just via transit covered by said ticket.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm still doing hybrid work, going to the office 3 times a week in Sydney. I pay the equivalent of €66 a month. If I was doing full time in the office it would be €110 a month. I would also love a €58 euro monthly ticket.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

And the 58€ ticket is valid nationwide. In theory, you could cover distances of 1000 km with it from North to South. It's still a pretty good deal, but if people only use it occasionally and own a car anyway, the math is probably not in favour of it.