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Zelenskyy will present ‘victory plan’ to US president during trip to Washington next week, when he is also likely to hold talks with Trump

Volodymyr Zelenskyy has urged Joe Biden to allow Ukraine to carry out long-range strikes inside Russia with US-supplied weapons, and to earn “a place in history” by “strengthening Ukraine” before he leaves office.

Speaking before a crucial trip next week to Washington, where he will meet Biden and the US vice-president and presidential nominee, Kamala Harris, and address the UN, Zelenskyy said he would present a “victory plan” to end the war.

His vision for a “just peace” has not been made public. But in a media briefing with the Observer in Kyiv, Zelenskyy said it involved carrying out deep strikes with western missiles inside Russia – something London and Washington have so far refused.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

So, 2 things:

  1. We need to give them permission, this is an ugly war and we can help bring it to an end, we need to do that.

  2. Our technology, particularly in guided missiles, is basically unfair compared to Russia's (mostly because of our absolutely omniscient fused targeting intel), even their best. We can pick a target and finger of death it, 30 minutes or your pizza's free.

I get why we're hesitant, us giving our missile technology to anyone is pretty unreasonable, it's like someone getting in a fist-fight, and you hand them an ar-15. But, they didn't start this fight, and the other side pulled a knife, so they've gotta finish this, one way or another.

So, this is something I understand us thinking about, even if I really want us to give them whatever they need to solve this problem ASAP.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Alternatively, Ukraine claims they can expand their own military industrial complex by a factor 4 but they don't have the money themselves. So the US could also just give them cash. But this would hurt their own MIC, so they also won't do that.

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