this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2024
285 points (98.3% liked)

News

23275 readers
3742 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Footage of two New York City police officers opening fire at a subway station as they confronted a man holding a knife shows they shot at him as he was standing still, his arms by his side and his back to a train.

In the days since Sunday’s shooting, police officials have repeatedly emphasized that the officers fired after Derell Mickles “charged” at one of them, and when their attempts to deescalate the situation and use Tasers had failed — leaving them with little choice but to resort to deadly force to protect themselves and passengers. 

The footage, uploaded to the NYPD’s YouTube page Friday, offers a different view of the shooting that not only wounded Mickles but also a bystander, who was hit in the head with a stray bullet. Gregory Delpeche, 49, was sent to the hospital in critical condition, where doctors had to open up his skull to reduce brain swelling, according to his family.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

A cop would rather shoot and kill a suspect and bystanders than suffer even the slightest of injury. I don't blame the cops for being scared of a potential knife and blasting the guy without a care for anything but your own skin. But don't do that and call yourself a hero.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly I think that's a pretty low expectation.

I'm not going to watch the video but killing someone when there is no imminent threat is murder.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The threat was definitely there, the man was aggressive from the moment they approached him.

Now I definitely don't agree with how they reacted to literally every aspect of this situation, they're lucky more people haven't been hurt from their idiotic decision making. But to call this a non threat situation is pretty dishonest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

He was a threat but never life threatening I guess is the best way to describe it. The only life threatening action was the police gunfire. Him sprinting at a cop with a knife in his hand is threatening but not life threatening imo. Specially not when he just casually stopped?? Then again adrenaline and all I’m not even sure the cop getting chased knew he had stopped by the time he was firing even though it seems very obvious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tbf, a knife isn't "the slightest injury" but potentially deadly

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Context is important.

A knife is "potentially deadly" sitting in a knife block if there are people around because someone could grab it out of the knife block and start stabbing.

This guy was not posing a threat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m not so sure in this situation that I wouldn’t call him a threat. He shrugged off a taser or two?(unsure if they hit their taser darts or whatever) sprinted at an officer with a knife in his hand yelling shoot me if I heard correctly. But shooting at him 9 times is absurd. They shoulda just kept dancing around with him tbh and never drawn their guns only tasers. Or shit find a broom and just use reach he didn’t seem to want to hurt anyone but maybe suicide by cop from the whole sprinting at the cop saying shoot me. Again if I heard correctly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His arms were at his side. He was not moving. That makes him not a threat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

At which moment in time are you referring? The only time I consider him a threat was when he sprinted at the officer. Edit: I wasn’t clear initially my apologies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At the moment he was murdered? What other moment would I be referring to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah at that time the threat was his partner. Who shot him 😆

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah you'd think they'd at least have better aim

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Talk to anyone that runs a gun range, and they'll tell you that cops have the worst aim. They have a tendency to point in the general direction of their target, then pull the trigger until it goes click.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The smart ones aren’t on the streets. I imagine detectives probs have decent aim but I know nothing but conjecture and assumptions 😆

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I worked alongside law enforcement for awhile and this was my experience as well. The run of the mill patrolman isn't very bright and will spend a long time sitting in a car. The smarter ones rise through the ranks pretty quickly, taking advantage of the huge growth potential in LE.

Most departments offer huge incentives and bonuses to continue your education and advance. It's very military in its structure and by the time you're working homicide or major cases pretty much everyone has a Masters degree or comparable specialized training. They're still bastards but they're definitely not stupid.