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[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s a thing.

Remember how the cloud is someone else’s server? Now you can buy it (or lease) and bring it home, and it becomes only sorta someone else’s.

Amazon and Azure offer their own on-prem products.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

"Locally hosted" means it's running on the local host. In this case, that would mean on the same computer running Firefox.

Calling something that is only accessible over the internet "locally hosted" is outrageous doublespeak.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Why does local mean local? I'm not sure I understand your question.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If they had said “locally hosted in our datacenter” would you be confused why they didn’t move a rack into your house?

My question is why are you projecting your limited interpretation as a global truth?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

In IT context local is a well establised term. It's either hosted locally, i. e. on machine running the browser or not. A datacenter or cloud are remote machines also by the same well established definition.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Ok, now do your own datacenter vs cloud.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

And what term might be used to describe the location of the datacenter down the hall, that is not used to describe the one across the country? It’s pretty standard in IT, but also used outside of IT by normal people for things such as describing a pub.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The language is confusing, and Mozilla should fix it themselves.

The important takeaway is: data is sent over an IP address controlled by Google, to a remote server, running Google software. No processing is taking place on someone's local computer.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

IP address can belong to Mozilla, but the rest is correct.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Hadn't checked, that is not a hard requirement for the platform - assuming they actually have it in their infrastructure.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

If they had said “locally hosted in our datacenter”

Then that would also be an oxymoron.

Local is the opposite of remote. This is a remote server. Remote servers are not local. This is not a matter of interpretation.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It is, actually. It is local to them, it is remote to you. They are differentiating from a remote server in someone else’s datacenter. It is not that confusing.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is a FAQ for end users, about a feature in software running on end users' computers.

It is absolutely doublespeak to call it "local". Are we supposed to invent an entirely new term now to distinguish between remote and local? Please do not accept this usage. It will make meaningful communication much harder.

Edit: I mean seriously, by this token OpenAI, Google, Facebook, etc. could call their servers "locally hosted". It is an utterly meaningless term if you accept this usage.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

We actually do have better terminology for "local to Mozilla" and "remote to Mozilla"... It's first party and third party.

And, from the looks of it, Mozilla is indeed using Google Cloud Services as a third party, according to their privacy policy.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

That’s a given. Google Cloud Platform is managed through the same Google Cloud Console as everything else, which is in Google’s datacenter, even when it it’s running locally - unless you opt for an air-gapped option. It’s how companies can make data locality claims while using the same tools and one of the selling points pushed by cloud services.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Information We Share.

We use third parties to provide the Service to you, and have contracted with these companies requiring them to protect your information (Third-Party Services):

Google Cloud Platform. Google Cloud Platform (GCP) is a cloud-computing platform. We use GCP to manage services that facilitate responses to user prompts and page summarization.

https://orbitbymozilla.com/privacy

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

lol, I think we're giving too little credit to the marketing people in tech. I want to read their blogs!

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