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Do we at this point have any substantial data on just how many users Reddit actually lost due to this?

Any resources would be greatly appreciated.

As a sidenote, I'll add that they certainly lost my account the second I couldn't use RiF anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You probably can't judge the loss in user count anyway. 99% of the users never actively contribute anything, not even upvotes or so.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I tend to disagree. Most of the users that actually cared enough about the API changes to make the switch to Lemmy were powerusers. I think most casual lurkers use the official app anyway and didn’t care about the protests.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hell naw, I’m a lurker (on Reddit). I used Apollo because I’m an IT guy and I can’t stand ads.

I feel like I actually should start interacting here though, because I’m not being over spoken / silenced by AI bots and algorithms

Edit: I am already halfway to my number of updoots on my Reddit account of 7 years… it’s working! Be the change you want to see!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nevermind AIs, people will dogpile you and just generally be dicks over on that site even over something innocuous, and it's great being somewhere that spectre isn't hanging over your head

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, sometimes I look over there to see how it's doing, and the comments are even more toxic than I remembered. It's undeniable that a large chunk of the people who left were the decent ones.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I can't stand ads and scabs, and I feel like a scab if I open reddit now.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had an 8 year old account with a few hundred thousand karma, deleted it on July 1st once BaconReader went down.

Switching to Lemmy makes me want to participate even more and hopefully foster more people to join.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had an active 11 year old account that I deleted.

The final straw for me was an interaction with a ham fisted admin these last few days. It really and honestly is a toxic environment there, and the admins are following the lead from Spez, so it's deeply embedded into the culture.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if you could have sold those accounts. You get done money and Reddit gets worse. Win-win.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

The karma is such a psychological thing.

In real life, it translates to nothing. But it makes it just that slightly harder to close an account.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

All I can say is I was one of the technical users that asked obscure questions that had no relevant results when searching before posting, and I tried to answer any questions I could. I haven't even visited reddit since the 9th of June and I never will visit it again. All of my searches on the internet include "-reddit" now too. I don't care, fuck spez. My password was saved in Infinity, I don't remember it, and I don't want to. Whenever someone starts a class action lawsuit over CCPA I'll file and join.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Now I understand where the negativity came from from some redditors; Lemmy is really not lurker friendly, you can't just browse All as easily and see quick dopamine hits.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Addicts? ::shakes head::

Powerusers ::nods::

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's what I meant. Reddit lost all the power users, which were just a small percentage of all users. So in numbers it doesn't look too bad for reddit, but it actually is bad because they lost the good users which actually provide content.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Power users are the ones who build value on reddit, so with their loss the standard users will get less out of reddit over time and likely use it less.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is anecdotal, but I was neither an app user or a moderator on reddit, but I decided to leave when Huffman became an ass to the mods. I think you underestimate the chance to protest against corporate assholes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Hey, I'm a lurker and I used the official app (un-installed it the day I created an account on fedi, it was shit anyway). There's still a moral ground attached to this. I don't browse reddit anymore, and I did a final post in a niche community that I really like, a couple of weeks or so, in an attempt to lead them here, because I do miss that community and I contributed more there. There's a bunch of good reasons people could stop using reddit, but imho what matters is that we build our communities in fedi and just forget about what happens to reddit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Hopefully you’re right about the majority, but I’m also a lurker and it took me a single day without Apollo filtering away the ads for me to delete my few posts, my account, and throw in my lot with all of you! Can’t stand liars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I disagree from what I've seen so far. Most of the discussions I've seen lately about newly migrated reddit users have been folks who were lurkers or mostly lurkers. I myself used to be active on reddit years ago, but have been a lurker for a good 6-7+ years now or so. I think you're correct as of a few weeks ago when powerusers may have migrated earlier, but I think the migration post-API implementation has been a large amount of non-powerusers. Of course, users that are 100% casual, and don't have accounts at all or only rarely used Reddit, and might not even be aware of what's going on, those folks I'm sure didn't really move.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I used the official app, but still supported the protest.