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The US, UK, France and Germany have announced new sanctions on Iran, formally accusing it of sending ballistic missiles to Russia for the first time after weeks of warnings. They plan to sanction the aviation sector.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I doubt that they care much.

Trump broke the JCPOA and sanctioned Iran randomly. Then after a brief time of lip services from the European countries they also fell in line with Trump to sanction Iran. Biden was happy to continue Trumps policy.
Instead of stabilizing the region and opening Iran to the West, which was probably Obamas greatest diplomatic achievement, they doubled down on pushing Iran to China and Russia.

Iran was heavily sanctioned before. They didn't budge, because they know the US to be lying traitors and the Europeans to just do the bidding of the US. Adding more sanctions on top now will not change that.

Unless the US and Europeans develop some resemblance of political quality of the Obama administration, there is no reason for Tehran to listen to either of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Tbh the idea under Obama to bait the Iranians to drop their religious nuclear nutjobbery with money was naive at best. Even under the agreement, they were doing everything they could to advance towards nukes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The IEA and everybody else involved in the oversight disagrees.

Also "Iran is one year from developing a nuke" was the go to scare headline for like the past decade.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They just shifted their resources to the missile development side of the puzzle, and the deal itself would only limit their uranium enrichment for 15 years. It just kicked the can down the road to 2031 for Iran to have their nukes 'legally'.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is just nonsense, i am sorry. 15 years is a long time. The goal was to establish diplomatic ties with Iran again. Instead the US pushed for military hostility. Also it is cynical to demand Iran to have no missiles while the US is stationing missiles in bases and ships in the region.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I can agree that it's debatable whether it was a good idea, but how is it 'nonsense' that the fact that sunset clause makes the deal very awkward? Why do you think the Iranians wanted it in, if not for the freedom to just develop nukes later?

Also the Iranian regime think they have a good shot at going to paradise because they allow men to rape their child brides, amongst other horrific shit. I can see the case we don't want these kind of people with the power of nuclear weapons.

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