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if it were (verifiably) on video, it wouldn't be paranormal, it would be science.
if you want paranormal content that may not be genuine i can recommend the horror section on netflix?
Ehh. I was just interested in seeing if there are sites dedicated to paranormal stuff. Whether or not it being science I'd rather see SOMETHING that seems legit instead of sifting the same old tales. I can read all day about encounters, but no one ever shows proof of anything they claim to be real.
Edit: oh no.... My... Interweb points 🙄 staahp
Hmmmmm.
Yes, yes i see what's happening, but i am standing my ground. I guess I'm stuck with YouTube pranks, edited garbage, and an endless amount of inhumane content.
Thanks.
In this thread you've implied repeatedly that you're aware of the implausibility of paranormal phenomenon but you're still going to watch:
And if you're just doing this for amusement, the Why Files does some pretty entertaining stuff reporting on 'real' (clarification: these are actual things people believe not just made up for their episode) conspiracies and paranormal events, I can enjoy them even as a skeptic. But if you're doing this out of actual interest, belief or just to give both sides of the argument a fair shake, I really really really hope that you will take my advice and figure out if this is truly important, or if this is you self-harming out of stubbornness. Because I have been there and it's really bad for you.
I've been down some pretty dark rabbit holes, but my YouTube feed is full of fake ghost stories right now, and i did go search for LiveLeak things only to learn it's been taken down but an alternative has popped up and it's just terrible terrible videos and pictures.
The site I'm hinting at i found because i was looking up more information on a drowned diver, then veered off into ghost story things. I'm just wanting to be entertained, but also would like to see something that makes my mind say "no way! Wanna know more about it" but it's all fake things.
I did find some posts about Skinwalker Ranch and some strange things happening but some of the commentary doesn't match up to what the video shows.
Being stuck with certain media is out of my control. How am i supposed to watch believable things if they aren't created or posted?
Wanting to see something plausible but not finding it on a site full of influencer trash doesn't make me aware that it's not possible. It just shows that the things available are implausible because of obvious flaws they do show.
While some of it is interesting the paranormal stuff on there is just lame. So unless if you know of sites that host unexplainable things there's only so much i can access. Thanks for constantly just shooting me down 👎
We can't do anything except shoot you down. What you want doesn't exist, not because people are choosing not to create it but because they can't create it. The 'paranormal' isn't real. Anyone that believes it is is insane, and insane people are not known for their ability to tell compelling stories and hold cameras steadily, nor are they known to pursue and publish media invalidating their own delusions. If you want to see convincingly shot footage, watch the X-Files, it's a beautiful show. But that's the best you're going to get. Because the content you crave does not exist.
Sounds like you should go and join a religious cult. They'll probably have lots of fake shit for you to listen and see.
No. I saw what the Jonestown cult was about. That was ridiculous.
Schrödinger mocked quantum theory, we got the slit experiment, no one thought Tesla's ideas were good, until suddenly they did and then there was God not playing dice and spooky stuff, the Drake equation and SETI. It's a great idea that may lead to investigation of things we don't understand.
Schrödinger was criticizing the interpretation of quantum mechanics, Tesla generated way more garbage than he did innovations, the Drake equation is a novelty (and Drake repeatedly clarified that it was conjecture until we find any evidence of ETI), SETI is awesome.
Everything you just listed is an example of science investigating the tangible aspects of observed phenomenon.
The point is, people have been discouraging use of wild and vivid imagination, so we get the same old same old until someone has courage to daydream, thought experiment, etc
Science works best when people are:
The book "How We Got To Now" does a fabulous job of showing that science is not a uniform step by step process instead is a tree with different branches.
AC and refrigerators all started because someone wanted to ship ice to tropical locations for money.
SETI is another prefect example. A bunch of scientists sat around and said to themselves "We have all these new instruments for space. What if we tried to find alien life with it?"
You should decide whether you are looking for science or religion.
But better not both, because both at the same time can make you thoroughly confused.
Ever heard of Doug Adams, Robert Heinlein, Bradbury, Huxley? But by all means, discourage any use of imagination just for fun.
Yes, but how is that related to the original question, or to my answer?
Probably that they dared engage some imagination.
I heard you already. No need to repeat yourself. But how is that related to the original question, or to my answer?
You understand the difference between fiction and pretending fiction is reality?
Obviously. I'm saying imagining the wildest things has led to important contributions, irl and fiction. Telephone conversations with video, self-driving cars, space exploration all began as crazy dreams. They called Einstein crazy, ostracized some of the greatest writers and scientists and engineers. Close Encounters, Star Wars. Hand washing in medical care got doctors fired.
Play is important, for more than recreation.
Play isn't relevant in any way to the discussion.
Imagination is letting the mind play.
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The entire thing is completely off topic and doesn't even sort of make any point you tried to make anywhere in the thread.
It was my point.
By that logic, any insane thing is totally legit, just waiting to be proven. For every sound idea lacking evidence that was greatly mocked in its day- there are an infinite number of absolute bullshit ideas with no merit that will never be proven. Survivorship bias of the good ideas gives you the impression that many/most ideas once ridiculed must in fact be true in the long run- but you’re ignoring the literal millions that are awful and forgotten. Eugenics was someone’s great idea too, as was asbestos, chemical weapons, and old man cloud god.
Could there be quantum dimensions just waiting to be used for great things!? Probably! But that doesn’t mean ghosts, magic, and the occult are just great things waiting to be proven right.