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We used to have earbuds that don't need to be charged because they had a headphone jack, didn't get lost so easily because they had a cord attached to a headphone jack, never lost the bluetooth connection because they had a headphone jack, and they cost less because they had a headphone jack. https://bsky.app/profile/daisyfm.bsky.social/post/3l3mfjc6sn62k

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[–] [email protected] 221 points 2 months ago (6 children)

But they did tangle all the time. That was annoying.

[–] [email protected] 148 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And the cord would sometimes break inside/connector went bad.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, you'd snag the wire or slightly bend the connector and then you were just playing a game of making sure it stayed plugged into the exact right angle.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Had to make sure there has just the right tension on the left wire or you'd only get half the track. Bonus points for weirdly mixed stereo where that just sounded shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Or replace it, those things were like 50 cents and all sorts of devices had earbuds delivered with them, included in the price.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

and then you'd just replace them with one of the other three dozen you bought from Wal-Mart for five bucks back in 2016

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (5 children)

And people wonder how the Great Pacific Garbage Patch and others like it came to be 🤦

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

hey I'll have you know I keep all my broken earbuds in the same box in the garage with all the other cables and assorted dongles I can no longer identify and will likely never use, like any responsible citizen should

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (5 children)

If you think Bluetooth earphones won't also be in that pile once the batteries stop holding charge after 2 years, you're in for a world of dissapointing sex

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My AirBudz are over five years old and still play for like five hours before I need to charge them… and I used them 40+ hours daily for all of those years.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

How are your days 40+ hours long

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

We must know the secret of your 40+ hour days. Are you on Earth? What's the battery tech like on your planet? We could use some help.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think earbuds make up a significant percentage of the patch to be here virtue signaling and shaming people for what they were encouraged to do by corporate greed. Your source says the great majority of the patch comes from agriculture and fishing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think earbuds make up a significant percentage of the patch

Cheap and disposable plastics and electronics IS a significant part of the world garbage problem and yes, plastic particles is MOST of the garbage patch specifically.

be here virtue signaling and shaming people for what they were encouraged to do by corporate greed

Whoa, dude, hold your horses! I'm in no way blaming consumers. Making consumer electronics cheap crap that breaks easily and everything of decent quality prohibitively expensive is 100% on the greedy corporations, not their victims the consumers.

Your source says the great majority of the patch comes from agriculture and fishing.

Ok, admittedly a poor choice of example. Doesn't invalidate my intended point though, however ill-stated heh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is tough -

Making consumer electronics cheap crap that breaks easily and everything of decent quality prohibitively expensive is 100% on the greedy corporations, not their victims the consumers.

(US here) Gets me thinking about dollar store headphones. Consumers could buy decent headphones for about $10 direct from overseas. When that’s equivalent to more than an hour of wages, there’s still demand for the $1 version. Should this need not be met out of a sense of social responsibility?

(I don’t have a perfect answer myself)

Econ 101 on my mind here btw:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that our economic system has encouraged an environment where reputation is a thing to be immediately cashed out. You can't even know if those $10 earbuds are any better than the $1 version.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You can make some reasonable assumptions although they will be imperfect:

Wouldn’t be as frequently imperfect if freaking review fraud weren’t entirely ubiquitous (grrrr)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I'm here for the wired headphone -> pacific garbage patch vs lithium battery child labor -> wireless headphone fight 🍿

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Or we could just have quality standards and price controls so that regular people can afford decent headphones that don't break all the time whether they prefer wired or wireless 🤷

And a worldwide ban on child labor, of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don’t fool yourself. Slave labor of children is not exclusive to batteries. They make most of the world’s textiles, for example.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/reports/child-labor/list-of-goods-print

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did I give you the impression I was fooling myself, or were you just speaking to the wider audience?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Somewhere the discussion chain has the following transition:

-> Hitler

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (15 children)

You think wireless earbuds are better?? lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Earbuds? Yes.

Real headphones? Nah

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd imagine the limited lifespan of their batteries and the fact that they have ones to begin with would be of bigger concern

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s fair. My first pair still works awesome after five years, and I’ve used them for 40+ hours a week for that whole time. I only have a new pair because I needed ANC, but I still use my old pair to sleep.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I think the headphones I'm using are 20 year old. But to be fair, a lot of them either don't last that long or are simply thrown away for some new thing.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Or if you buy the better ones you can usually replace the cord with a new one, making it work again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The TWS equivalent to that is one of the buds no longer turning on. I just had to RMA a pair because of that.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah! That's why I loved Sennheiser IEMs, they had oval cables that never tangle up, no matter what you do. Still have a pair for my Switch

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Loved those as well and I am very angry they are no longer sold (at least not here). Even Sennheiser doesn't escape the enshittification for their mid-range earbuds

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Remember when they got stuck somewhere and yanked out of your ears? Somehow my Bluetooth headset don't get that because it has Bluetooth

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

I hate it when the Bluetooth gets caught on the door handle and rips my blue tooth out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know you don't have to dangle cables about willy-nilly at full length? You can partially wind them up or tie a loose knot so they're effectively shorter, or hold them in place under clothes or a peg or anything. I thought this was self-explanatory?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I know, but I still don't miss it. Tbf I also switched from earbuds to headset at the same time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I do this simple trick (Warning: YouTube video), and my cables don't tangle at all, unless of course I forget to do that. It might cause cable to break more easily, but idk., my earphones tend to break just before warranty ends, which is fine for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

As a runner I hated cables. All the time I'd be in the middle of a run and my hand would catch the cord mid stride and yank them out of my ear.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Only because people couldn't be bothered with learning the over-under cable coiling method.