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Plenty of American kids need homes.
American adoption agencies can deny adoptions if they don't like anything about you. Including your religion. And most of them are Christian, including the ones getting money from the state.
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/politics/2022/01/20/holston-united-methodist-home-for-children-adoption-tennessee-refused-family-jewish/6582864001/
China, on the other hand, allowed you to adopt if you're things like queer or single or not Christian.
Do you have a source for China allowing anyone who isn’t cisgender to adopt? I have only ever heard that it is an instant denial.
By queer, I didn't mean all types of queer people. I mean that many people who fall under that spectrum have been able to successfully adopt children from China when denied by the U.S.
My question is about any type of non “conventional” couple being approved for adoption in China. As I understand it, their policy involved a strict “moral standing” to adopt, anything that deviated was instantly denied. So I am confused as to how any queer people would pass that test, let alone that its happened.
I'm guessing it involves bribes. But it was still achievable.
I bet if you bribed one of those Christians you could get the same result.
Possibly, but they seem more sincere about their bigotry.
Edit: They're also more in tune with Western social norms that might indicate someone isn't 100% heterosexual and they can do things like check marriage licenses.
I understand that some of them have issues. Instead of fixing those supply chain issues, we have been outsourcing to China.
Even if that's the term we have for it, I hate the use of supply chain here, it's got such an uncaring tone....
International adoption is a rather uncaring business to be in. Sure, it’s “for the children,” but I’m betting cash is still king.
Capitalism doesn't work on giving everyone a decent standard of living. It works on creating inequality that drives those people who perceive that they have less than others to do something about it. They might work multiple jobs and shorten their lifespan, creating profits for others. They might give up, relying on welfare systems and/or begging. They might become criminals, taking from others to get what they think they deserve.
"We created a system based on "scarcity," and then manufactured scarcity."
I’m sure you’re responding to someone else.
I'm explaining that capitalism is not going to deliver a good standard of living for everyone, because it profits from inequality.
What does that have to do with international adoption bans?
Your comment, which I replied to:
And I said: "Capitalism doesn't work on giving everyone a decent standard of living."
Apologies if my communication is too neurodivergent for you, just block me.
Edit: Or you could engage in infrahumanisation by asserting that I'm spreading pro-Chinese propaganda... by saying that capitalism is flawed... when China is a hyper-capitalist hellscape.
At least try to make sense.
I’m saying that instead of adopting internationally, one could look locally, as there are plenty of kids who need adoption. They don’t need to resort to importing a child from a country that profits on exporting children.
Tell me more about how capitalism fits into an adoption conversation, wumao.
In terms of benefits to fellow living beings, being a good parent to a child from China is exactly as beneficial as being a good parent to a child from the US. One of those things isn't more morally appropriate.
There are also other reasons reported online for specifically adopting Chinese children. Due to political decisions, China had many unwanted but healthy female children. There appears to be a strong bias from many families for wanting physically healthy children. This occurred in Romania in the 80s (due to demands from the government to women to have more babies that they could not afford to feed, leading to a large amount of international adoptions and research into those adopted children from Romania).
Another that I am aware of is that Christian churches talk about adopting Chinese babies as a means of spreading Christianity. I also sadly suspect that the very far distance between the child and their birth parents might also be attractive, as there would not be as much meddling in the religious teachings that the adoptive families would wish to instil. It became a popular fad for some time, that had already lessened before this news of China tightening international adoption policies. There are articles about this, but the specific one I read a few months ago is not in my history.
Also, maybe some American parents who already have American children prefer 'exotic' children? It's gross, but that's the kind of choice you enable when you treat children as a commodity that can be traded internationally for money.
It is clear that economics and politics are amongst the forces principally creating situations where we have many children requiring adoption within a country, and also the situation that the adults in that country feel unable to support them. Then, globalisation allows for international adoption. It's economic systems all the way down.
I guess this is what it's like talking to a bad generative AI.
I agree. Next time, use your own words, not an LLM, and stay on topic without making everything into a commentary about capitalism.
No, ~~he~~ they write that to everyone.
I'm not male.
Wumao strikes again!