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Some of the LinkedIn Responses are direct and on-point, and also hilariously/depressingly based depending on how you look at it:

EDIT: In hindsight, I think I should've looked into posting this in a different community.. It's closer to a silly "innovation".. soo.. is this considered FUD? I also don't support smoking or vaping, especially among kids. Original title had "privacy-violating" before the "solution".

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It technically is a kind of steam in fact, actually. Even with drugs involved.

I think it's literally almost the same shit that's in fog machines, juice is PG, VG, Flavoring, and Nic, fog machines are (iirc) PG, VG, water, maybe essential oils for smell. You don't have to use USP food grade VG/PG for the fog though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I'm getting a lot of downvotes, and maybe I'm wrong about what kinds of vapes kids are using? Obviously if they're using nicotine vapes, that's bad and chemically addictive.
But I don't have a problem with kids vaping the drug-free, flavored juice. It can be habit forming, but so can fidget spinners. As long as it's not actually dangerous then I don't see the problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nicotine-free vapes still develop the oral habit in children and has been shown to be an easy entry into other vapes. Also propalene glycol really isn't great for your lungs, and constantly sucking on a vape that uses it does negatively effect your breathing.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20191018/Vaping-propylene-glycol-and-vegetable-glycerine-may-lead-to-lung-inflammation.aspx

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

Oh God the gateway drug argument can fuck right off.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I don't have much of a problem with them even vaping nicotine, especially once we're talking high school (ages 14-18.) They're already not allowed to buy it, that's enough. Sure, sometimes they'll evade the law and get it, they'll do it with white claws too, should we ban those? No, and you'd be hard pressed to find some teetotaler to say "yes" to that, but for some reason that goes right out the window when it's not "the thing they did as kids" but "the new thing they don't understand."

I'd be willing to bet flavored alcohol is more damaging to a young brain, more addictive (or at least on par) with nicotine, and what's more you can actually die from alcohol (and benzo, which the kids are getting too btw, very illegally) withdrawals, but are we banning Ciroc and Xanax and applying the flavor ban logic unilaterally or are we just singling out the vapes because the big pharma and tobacco lobbies successfully propagandized people into doing their bidding in a war against the most effective smoking cessation method on record to date?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Steam is the hot gas that is produced when water is boiled. It's also completely see through, ie, invisible.

That is not what the vapes produce. It's a water vapor. That's why they're called "vaporisers" and not "steamers".